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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSat May 24, 2014 6:36 pm

Well you know what im gonna say anyway so yeah thats me.
225h I'll still be at the game till i help out a friend get to phase 10 i guess
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 15, 2014 2:50 pm

Toukiden Extreme info:

Summary:
- 3 New Weapons
- 3 new allies
- 2 new Mitama types
- Improved moveset for existing weapons
- More bosses
- More missions
- Urgent missions (fight mystery boss for better mission rewards)
- Tenko can level up Mitama and more functionality
- New Extreme Destruction and Team destruction
- Some type of bonus for save carry over

Source multiple Siliconera stories:

New Weapons (Naginata aka chinese long sword, Kanabo and gun), allies and team attacks:
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Improvements to existing weapons:

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Two new Mitama styles and changes:
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Tenko changes:

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Also there are new bosses.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 15, 2014 8:04 pm

Sounds great. Definitely getting it.
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What Nonny said.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 15, 2015 3:58 pm

Toukiden Kiwama is releasing end of March for PS4 and Vita. Cross-save and cross-play confirmed but cross-buy isn't. Now I'm not sure which version to get.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeThu Jan 15, 2015 7:24 pm

I'll probably still get it on vita, unless PS4 has a radical improvement in graphics. It's the kind of game that's easier to do in and out of rather than spending hours at a time playing do is a perfect for the vita.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeWed Jan 21, 2015 9:54 pm

Lol why does the ps4 version look worse?

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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 21, 2015 2:46 pm

Demo is out on PS store in US now, and hits EU store on 25th March. I'll likely download the demo on PS4 and Vita, if its available on both, just to see how they compare, but I really liked Toukiden on Vita; the missions were just long enough to tackle in bite-sized junks, it was perfectly suited to handheld gameplay.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSun Mar 22, 2015 1:26 am

I've been playing the PS4 demo a bit. It's the same as the original Toukiden demo, just with the new weapons and one new type of Mitama. There's also some special missions to unlock stuff that carry over to the full game, but those are offline only which is a shame.

Haven't tried the rifle yet but the club and naginata are fun. Club seems a bit bad but I like the idea behind it. You have to space yourself properly so the tip of the club hits the enemy to do more powerful attacks, and which consecutive power hits you enter a powered up state where you can charge moves faster. It also has a move that can interrupt enemy attacks, although it seems inconsistent on bosses. Not properly sure how it works yet. Might just be a % chance to stop attacks or something.

The naginata is like a cross between the sword and knives, with sweeping attacks on the ground and in air. It has a parry which is really cool. If you time it right it completely avoids any attack, and I think if you time it perfectly it doesn't use any focus. On the ground it's probably more reliable to dodge normally but you can parry in the air which is great.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSun Mar 22, 2015 9:31 am

How is it graphically?
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSun Mar 22, 2015 11:18 pm

There's depth of field in the levels, which I don't think was there before. There's some cloth physics on some of the outfits now too. Otherwise it's pretty much the same as Toukiden on Vita. I don't know if the Vita version of Kiwama has those changes.

Another big change is the Tenko. Before it was just an item gathering tool, but now you have to look after it and stuff. You can buy snacks for it from the shop (so the shop actually has some use now) to improve it's mood, which presumably means it'll find more items. You can't send it out if it's too hungry. Also if you take a mission in the same place you sent it too, there's a chance you'll run into it during the mission and it'll follow you around. I think that improves the item haul too. There's an option for different clothes for it as well, but there doesn't seem to be any in the demo.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2015 1:42 am

Oh wait, the special missions in the demo are online, you just have to beat the first 3 offline first. It includes one brand new boss, and a new version of the weird firebird boss, as well as the old Cthonian Fiend or whatever he's called.

One surprise was that it seems bosses can randomly enter their second phase immediatey now. Or it was just a glitch. But the Screecher (new firebird) went into his upright phase right off the bat once, and it was a much harder fight. I'm guessing by the Screecher and Fiend that the bosses from vanilla Toukiden don't have any new attacks, but the new forms of them in the Kiwama part will. The Fiend is the same as always but the Screecher has quite a lot of new moves.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeThu Mar 26, 2015 11:22 pm

So, Moose, are you getting this on Vita or PS4? I sold my physical edition of the vanilla game, do it looks like I wont be able to transfer to PS4. At least, not unless I buy it again, though that seems silly.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 12:41 am

I'm getting the Vita version. Preordered the physical version because it's £10 cheaper. I would hav downloaded it if it was £30 like the original, but it's £35. I'm considering buying the PS4 version as well later on, when the price has come down a bit, just for kicks. I like it on the big screen and it's cross-save.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 7:16 pm

I've been looking for the Vita game, seen a few places at £24.99, though delivery seems to be like a week away. Patience is not one of my virtues.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 7:30 pm

I pre-ordered from Amazon on wednesday and it arrived today. That's with Prime though.

You get some bonus armour for carrying a save over. There's the armour of the two new female characters, or two versions of Yamato's armour, depending on what gender your character is.

Another new addition is Infinite Missions, which are survival/boss rush missions. They should be a lot of fun online.
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Same place I ordered from, but I don't have Prime so it'll be a few days yet. Still haven't really spent much time with the demo, so got plenty of time to practice again.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeSun Mar 29, 2015 11:35 am

Okay, that didn't take long. I didn't realise Amazon send via courier, so hadn't thought a sunday delivery possible, but there we go.

I imported all my save data over, and had the choice of starting the story all over again or picking up where I left off. I chose the latter. Some of the new mechanics are very interesting; the team super move, for instance, can one-shot a full health Manhunter. No, not a powerful foe per se, but interesting nontheless, and the bow has an additional move that lets you target an individual part of a boss with as many arrows as you have the focus to make. One annoying part you can't break? Hit it twenty times in one salvo, watch it fly off.

I'd assume the other weapons have similar new tricks as well. Kiwami is off to a great start, let's hope it continues to impress.
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Deliberation really adds a lot to the bow's potential. Before it was great for breaking parts but I couldn't really pick any styles or builds that would be particularly good for. Whereas now there's already a few cool ideas I have. A Speed Bow could be a ton of fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2015 1:46 pm

sim how did you import your save if you didn't have the original game?
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PostSubject: Re: Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme   Toukiden / Toukiden Extreme - Page 7 Icon_minitimeMon Mar 30, 2015 6:01 pm

You only need Age of Demons if you're moving from Vita to PS4, as you need to download and install a patch for AoD . From Vita to Vita there's an option in the menu screen in Kiwami which simply pulls everything across without any faffing about.
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Oh that's nice. Once you get to chapter 10, Mitama can be upgraded to level 12. When they reach it they get a permanent 4th boost, and you can swap out all the other boosts freely.
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I guessed they could be upgraded further, but I'm still in chapter eight and Shikimi just says she isn't yet experienced enough or some such. I've gottne a couple of very strong temporary buffs from bathing with characters who have the Ultimate soulmate status (Hayatori and Oka currently), which were very nice.
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This is likely a stupid question, but it's been a while since I played vanilla Toukiden. Kiwami starts you at chapter eight. Therefore I assumed, because I couldn't remember and didn't think to check, that AoD must have finished at chapter seven. However, looking at the cut-scene and story listings in the in-game house, the final chapter - where you defeat the Cimmerian King - appears to have been chapter five. Chapters six and seven are literally blank.

So, what happened in those chapters? Have I just missed them by skipping to the new content, or were they in AoD and Kiwami is just buggy when it comes to mentioning them?
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