Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:42 am
please make lili invesigate
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:07 pm
Well I started playing this and got into practice mode with Lars. He's much the same as he was, apart from a few things.
u/f+3 seems even more unsafe now, or maye the AI has just been programmed to punish it at every opportunity. SE1+2 no longer launches. SEd/f+1 is a nice new bound. Less damage than f,b+21 but it carries farther. f+21~f SEd/f+1 does more damage and carries further though, which is awesome. That's a new string to his combos. 111B! actually has a use now because of the Tag Assault lifting the opponent again. b+23 is a new wall carry B! ender. More damage than d/b+23.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:17 pm
f21-f, SE d/f1 is 3 hits. f/b21 and d/b2-f, SE d/f1 are both 2 hits. So they're better unless you can't put another hit in the juggle you have in mind.
I forgot to mention that iSW now gives W! which can be followed with a shoulder.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:23 pm
f+21~f SEd/f+1 still works in most situations where the other two would work though. It adds an extra hit, more damage and more distance and more distance to most of his BnBs without having to change anything else.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:33 pm
You may be right, I don't really know. I just believe when I tested it that doing d/b2, d/b21, d/b2-f, SE d/f1 did more damage than d/b21, f21-f, se d/f1. Probably better wall-carry too.
I also played a bit of 1vs1. Characters have 180 health, like in T6, so it's basically T6 with different stages and the balance changes.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:37 pm
You can do d/b+2, d/b+21, f+21~f SEd/f+1 though. At least of off f+1+2. Pretty sure it worked with other launchers too. I'll try it out again.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:48 pm
I think I've lost most of my tag vs solo matches online and the other players weren't even good, so I'll have to rethink my strategy. IIRC, solo characters get:
- 230 health - red life recovers automatically - more damage - 1st rage around half life, 2nd when they're almost dead - no Tag Crash
I think that tag combos and throws are good against them, since they kill red life, tag assaults are a bad idea, as they activate rage and all the damage done is recoverable, and stages with walls to pressure them would help too. Still, the damage of solo characters with rage is fucking stupid.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:27 pm
i honestly don't understand the damage system in this. in a tag vs tag match i took out half of a bar with a very basic combo. other times it does aroun 1/3 of a bar. no rage active for either
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:59 pm
Just got this.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:20 am
Did Lili get nerfed? She still has high damage combos for relatively little effort, but she feels slower and more open now.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:08 am
This shit's insane. Some genuine full health combos without rage.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:48 am
A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
Did Lili get nerfed? She still has high damage combos for relatively little effort, but she feels slower and more open now.
Yeah, I read on TZ she was mainly nerfed, but she got some buffs too. Still super easy to play, best sidestep, good punishment game, annoying pokes and the strong random/crushing factor (d3+4, hopkick, d/b4, 1+2, etc.). Add some throws to the mix and she's pretty decent. Oh, she's a good partner too. She has high damage, so she's great for tag combos, and I think for TA! as well.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:14 am
I like her new ff+3~F transition, although it's quite hard to land after a bound. It's a shame that wasn't expanded on. If more moves connected into her crouch dash she's be a lot more fun to play.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:48 pm
I finally completed the Fight Lab. For the trophy/achievement you just have to buy all the moves for Combot. The fastest way to do this is to clear the final boss stage many times. Getting an A rank unlocks Combot's special customization items. S ranks unlocks some of the game's best moves for Combot, like EWGF and Deathfist.
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S rank guide:
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:56 pm
So who's up for making a team and earn extra stuff?
And someone needs to come up with a decent name for the team.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:06 pm
Martial Law should be the Team name.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:10 pm
No one here uses Law though.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:18 pm
I could dress Lars to look like Bison I suppose.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:38 pm
How about The Bold and the Beautiful? Or Dynasty?
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:40 pm
A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
No one here uses Law though.
So?
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:52 pm
The Team with No Name.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:54 pm
The Sarah Jessica Parker Fans
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:00 pm
The Team That Couldn't Slow Down.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:34 pm
The netcode of this game is truly amazing. I had 3 bars yesterday with Japan and 3-4 today with a member of Team Spooky and mod of TZ from NY. I lost though.
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Subject: Re: Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Unlimited Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:31 am