One Piece SPOILER thread

Sora wrote:

So really nothing much happens, again.

God! What the hell's going on with you, Oda?

Have you read Alabasta, Skypiea and Enies Lobby?

Nothing much happened in that either.

And a character dying isn't really what I'd call "nothing happening". Ever since the christmas breaks Oda has been back on track.

Kaio wrote:

Sora wrote:

So really nothing much happens, again.

God! What the hell's going on with you, Oda?

Have you read Alabasta, Skypiea and Enies Lobby?

Nothing much happened in that either.

And a character dying isn't really what I'd call "nothing happening". Ever since the christmas breaks Oda has been back on track.

Yes but there's a little small thing you're overlooking. It's called PROGRESS. We get it, he's dead. Why span a whole chapter about it? It really doesn't need to take that long. In the other older sagas at least there was something moving on every chapter(excluding a handful of fights, especially against Eneru's lackies).

There hasn't been anything going back on track for a long while now, it's not "Narutard or Bleach" worthy slow but it's still shit slow. Too much power showcasing and over the top acts constantly done are flooding the story's pacing. There better be more than Ace just dying during the next chapter.

Nobody complains about Merry's death taking an entire chapter. Nobody complains about entire chapters of Luffy getting beat down by Crocodile/Ao Kiji/Magellan, nobody complains an entire chapter devoted to Zoro giving up his life and living, nobody cares about Kuma taking an entire chapter to blast away the SHs.

Ace dying is a MAJOR happening. Not only is he a central character, he is also Luffy's BROTHER. Not to mention this is the first on-screen, no bullshit death for YEARS. Anything less than an entire chapter devoted to Ace dying would have been terrible writing, exactly like something straight out of Naruto (Deidara, Orochimaru, Itachi).

This chapter shows that Oda finally grew a pair and that not everything is lovey-dovey and shit. This is a pirate manga where people put their life on the line to accomplish their dreams. But nobody dies, even when they get nuked at point blank range. Ace's death shows us that we can fear again for our favourite characters' lives. No more facepalms at Oda cheating a death again.

574: Portgas D. Ace, is dead
Pirates: Ace is down!!!
The pirates seemed shocked, Whitebeard is pale, and doesn't say a word.

Akainu: He's still breathing?
Akainu tries to finish off Ace. Damn the bastard.
Jinbei cuts in between them, and is burned to crisp.
Jinbei: I've already thrown away my life!

Sengoku stops Garp.
Garp: You better hold me down, Sengoku!! If not... I may kill Sakazuki!!
Sengoku: you fool...!

Luffy: Ace!! You promised me you won't die!!
Ace leans on Luffy,
Ace: Sorry, you couldn't save me...

Marco is freed by Mr3, and Marco and Vista both attack Akainu.
Akainu: Haki users eh? Well that's troublesome... give up on Fire-fist, he's done with.
Marco can't deny that claim, and regrets letting his guard down

Ace flashback, people are cursing Gold Roger and his blood.
people: The final words of son of Gold Roger better be "I'm sorry I was born at all"!

Ace: I didn't want fame... I just wanted to know if it was ok for me to be born at all into this world...
Luffy: Ace!!
Ace: I'm sorry about **** (sorry, some name I haven't seen before, don't recall). If you weren't there, I don't think I would have wanted to live.
Ace: Oh yeah, if you see Dadan, ask him how he's doing. Even a guy like him... I miss him now.
Ace: I can't raise my voice anymore... Luffy, you tell everyone.
Pops.... everyone.... and Luffy...
Luffy: !!
Ace: Thank you for loving a do-no-gooder like me, a son of a demon like me.... thank you.

Whitebeard has tears in his eyes, remembering how he met Ace.
Ace falls to the ground, and the vivre card burns out.
Luffy: .....Ace?

Luffy cries with an expression never before seen in the manga.

Flashback to when they were little.
Ace: What are you crying for!!
Luffy: But Ace, I thought you died...
Ace: You idiot, how could I leave my own brother and die? I promise. I'll never die.

Kaio wrote:

Nobody complains about Merry's death taking an entire chapter. Nobody complains about entire chapters of Luffy getting beat down by Crocodile/Ao Kiji/Magellan, nobody complains an entire chapter devoted to Zoro giving up his life and living, nobody cares about Kuma taking an entire chapter to blast away the SHs.

Just because nobody complains about them doesn't mean they're magically invulnerable to criticism. I just said that most of the time back then, it did progress a lot more. Obviously back then there's handful of times the series had been lagging, I already pointed out the fights are specifically dragged out. Still, with that said, it still seems boring right now, and the next chapter is apparently going to revolve around just someone dying. Despite being such a big thing, it shouldn't take a chapter to show someone dying, I mean come on, flashbacks? We don't need anything to fuel our emotion and baawwing at this point, the very idea is tragic and big overall.

I think you're taking this a bit too seriously. I'm just saying that I'd like to see more in a chapter than just someone dying and people going "Oh my God"(a death in a story doesn't need to be drawn out and made into a bigger deal than it already is, a character death =/= wasting our time), It's not like I'm bitching something like "Oh my Goooood this is gonna take 43532532 chapters! ZOMGNfjewbnfgieg"

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Portgas D. Ace, is dead

Oda's trying far too hard.

FAR too hard. Hopefully Oda will pull out of his ass that he really isn't dead later(as dumb as it would be) considering people not dying excluding flashbacks is what makes OP special. Putting death doesn't mean it'll drastically improve your story, hell having people survive and still making an impression throughout the story and not JUST "surviving" is way more interesting.

No, you guys are bitching about nothing.

Using the death card to make the reader feel emotion, to then just go LULZ J/K J/K is awful writing.

No, no. What I'm saying is that it just sucks that IF Ace really dies, it'd be stupid to revive him(after what HAD ALREADY HAPPENED NOW IS WHAT I'M SAYING, not what you're thinking where you assume i'm saying "rewind a little and pretend this new chapter coming up won't happen like it's planned and he should just cheap death"), this is about undoing what has happened right now, but I kind of wish it'd happen just to keep the death thing in One Piece away, even if it would sound stupid. I'm torn over it really.

I was more or less trying to continue Baal's "train of thought" into my own there. My main bitching concern is still that everything feels like it's still going slow and it's been so long now that Ace dying is just something I can't care about anymore since it dragged on too much. we're constantly getting these dramatic hype ups and shit and then there's always a cliffhanger, it's too much to take that you can't absorb the fact Ace is finally gonna die because you've been force fed with so much of what just happened before.

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No, you guys are bitching about nothing.

I was only bitching about the title.

Heeeeeeeeee's deeeeeeeeeead.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=2000120&topic=53429107&page=2

Ah fucking fanboys. I say one thing about people totally seeing Ace dying coming and they think "OH GOD, Dhneaufbrubgvufgn ODA-SAN IS DAH BEST STORYTELLER EVER, NO ONE COULD SEE IT COMING".

Fucking inferiors.

Ace & Itachi: oh hey guys, were just cool older brothers that use fire attacks, are part of dangerous radical groups, have similar hair partings, hang out with fish-people, and are going to our deaths later on...

sasuke: i abandoned my friends and hometown to chase after my brother with the help of a snake person.

luffy: me too!

^You got that joke from that pic.

"ace gonna die" has been a fad on AP ever since the guy was first shown in chains.

It was very expected that Ace was gonna die, though the way he did was unexpected. Everyone, including me, thought BB was the one who was going to lay the final blow.

See? I mean come on. I know that guy, he's that OP fanboy who wants to glorify everything. Every little opposing thing to this dude is like basically saying "One Piece is shit". Pity I had to run into him considering how many times I avoided his bullshit ages back(hell I even supported him once I think, who the fuck knows).

Nobody likes Roman.

I know, he was always called a troll way back(not sure if he still does now).

Random shitty character wrote:

^You got that joke from that pic.

if i could find the pic, id've post that instead.

BB and his entire crew attack WB.

WB flashback.

WB dies.

WHILE STILL STANDING UP STRAIGHT DAYUM.

/chapter

That's it? That's all. RAAAAAAHGH, COME ON!

WE'RE RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS PART OF THE STORY, WHY IS ODA TORTURING US!?

If you check the spoiler pics, you know this shit is worth it.

THE MAN DIED WHILE STANDING STRAIGHT UP.

That's just stupid.

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Even in death, Whitebeard's body never caves in.
Even with half of his head gone, he still destroys his enemies.
His statue could only be described as a "monster".

The number of sword wound he recieved in this battle... 267 slashes.
The number of gun shot wound he recieved in this battle... 152 shots.
The number of cannon blast he recieved in this battle... 46.

Yet all you could see in his proud back... or shall we say, his life as a pirate....
Not a single wound from fleeing could be seen!!!

This is badass, I'm right, you're wrong.