Hulk Vs Goku

I genuinely think Hulk curb stomps:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/55778707

Whatever reason it was for Banner to get pissed off at Goku, of all ppl, Hulk certainly gives Goku the fight of his life. I don't think he'll kill Goku though, just leave him battered and bloody.

Even when that smug masochistic smile comes on goku's face as he enjoys getting beaten, seriously if anything is gonna piss off hulk any more it would be that.

Base Goku, yes.

If Goku can't win quickly, and the Hulk becomes progressively more angry. Then the Hulk would win. However if the Hulk loses rage Goku could win. Really it could go either way.

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

Goku has no chance at all. Hulk is one of those over powered characters in the marvel universe with the right amount of anger and scenarios i don't want to get into.

Think about pheonix, Thanos, and the silver surfer.

People have been debating Hulk vs Superman for decades and how many Goku vs Superman topics have you seen? So yeah.

Zero wrote:

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

How quickly into a fight have you seen hulk throw a tank?

A tank is 70 tons he does it effortlessly, he doesn't need that much rage to be overpowering goku at all.

Goku isn't that strong even Skypiea Luffy has shown greater strength feats.

Kaio wrote:

Goku isn't that strong even Skypiea Luffy has shown greater strength feats.

Oh yeah that ones gotta be done at some point to. Luffy and zoro dodge light speed attacks.

Luffy can carry a gigantic golden ball up a beanstalk.

Zoro threw a building.

Luffy pushed those two massive buildings apart from a squashed position.

Sailor Moon's power is maximum.

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

How quickly into a fight have you seen hulk throw a tank?

A tank is 70 tons he does it effortlessly, he doesn't need that much rage to be overpowering goku at all.

Base Goku lifted 10 tons effortlessly. Which means at SSJ, he can lift 50 times that effortlessly. You do the math.

Zero wrote:

Base Goku lifted 10 tons effortlessly. Which means at SSJ, he can lift 50 times that effortlessly. You do the math.

If you were to assume that SSJ remains a fifty times increase, and that the SEG guides are correct then SSJ Goku could lift 500 tons, SSJ2 could lift 1000 tons and at SSJ3 could lift 4000 tons. That is of course assuming that simply increasing his power level fifty times increases his physical strength accordingly. Which I don't believe anyway, so the above numbers are moot.

Even were they not, Hulk braced a mountain range on his back, weighing several billion tons, easily topping anything Goku could manage in terms of brute strength. In any eventuality, Goku's strength is almost irrelevant here; it's his speed that could be the deciding factor. Hulk may be ridiculously strong, and he may be able to withstand and heal very quickly from attacks that could destroy Goku, but in terms of speed I don't see him being in the ball park. The only way I can see him even tagging Goku would be with a surprise Sonic Clap or something similar. Otherwise he's not going to be quick enough to land a decent hit, and I don't think Goku, even at SSJ3, has enough in the tank to hurt him seriously.

In a straight out slug fest, yes, Hulk wins. In an actual fight though, the advantage is lessened.

Where does Hulk take a whole mountain range on his back? Also, it's been stated that the Hulk's "normal" Hulk state goes up to 100 tons of lifting and that's with most universes.

And one more thing, can the Hulk survive an engulfing blast like a Kamehameha or something?

Zero wrote:

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

How quickly into a fight have you seen hulk throw a tank?

A tank is 70 tons he does it effortlessly, he doesn't need that much rage to be overpowering goku at all.

Base Goku lifted 10 tons effortlessly. Which means at SSJ, he can lift 50 times that effortlessly. You do the math.

lifting 50 tons =/= throwing 70 tons

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

How quickly into a fight have you seen hulk throw a tank?

A tank is 70 tons he does it effortlessly, he doesn't need that much rage to be overpowering goku at all.

Base Goku lifted 10 tons effortlessly. Which means at SSJ, he can lift 50 times that effortlessly. You do the math.

lifting 50 tons =/= throwing 70 tons

500 tons =/= 50 tons.

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Where does Hulk take a whole mountain range on his back? Also, it's been stated that the Hulk's "normal" Hulk state goes up to 100 tons of lifting and that's with most universes.

And one more thing, can the Hulk survive an engulfing blast like a Kamehameha or something?

In the Secret Wars one of the bad guys drops a mountain range on a group of heroes, some of whom are unconscious. The bad guys then bugger off, assuming they have killed the good guys, but later on we seem Hulk actually managed to take the impact and is bracing the weight on himself, keeping it off the other guys. According to the cover, it was fifty billion tons or something equally incomprehensible.

Hulk's healing power is a bit inconsistent; he's been shown to regenerate from a near skeletal state to full health in a matter of seconds, yet others he struggles to ward of blows that logically shouldn't trouble him. Depends who is writing him at the time, really. At his peak though, yeah, I don't think he'd be too fussed about a Kamehameha.

Zero wrote:

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

Superbuu3 wrote:

Zero wrote:

At his 100 ton lifting state, he beats base Goku, but not SSJ Goku. However, if the Hulk increases in power from Rage he can win, but I would think that it would take a fuck ton of rage to get to SSJ2 let alone SSJ3 Goku's strength.

How quickly into a fight have you seen hulk throw a tank?

A tank is 70 tons he does it effortlessly, he doesn't need that much rage to be overpowering goku at all.

Base Goku lifted 10 tons effortlessly. Which means at SSJ, he can lift 50 times that effortlessly. You do the math.

lifting 50 tons =/= throwing 70 tons

500 tons =/= 50 tons.

Um... there is no way that goku can pick up 50x what base goku can.

SimianWonder wrote:

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Where does Hulk take a whole mountain range on his back? Also, it's been stated that the Hulk's "normal" Hulk state goes up to 100 tons of lifting and that's with most universes.

And one more thing, can the Hulk survive an engulfing blast like a Kamehameha or something?

In the Secret Wars one of the bad guys drops a mountain range on a group of heroes, some of whom are unconscious. The bad guys then bugger off, assuming they have killed the good guys, but later on we seem Hulk actually managed to take the impact and is bracing the weight on himself, keeping it off the other guys. According to the cover, it was fifty billion tons or something equally incomprehensible.

Hulk's healing power is a bit inconsistent; he's been shown to regenerate from a near skeletal state to full health in a matter of seconds, yet others he struggles to ward of blows that logically shouldn't trouble him. Depends who is writing him at the time, really. At his peak though, yeah, I don't think he'd be too fussed about a Kamehameha.

At that peak, Hulk easily curbstomps Goku then provided he can touch him. However, in his normal 100 ton state, Goku would win.

Zero wrote:

SimianWonder wrote:

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Where does Hulk take a whole mountain range on his back? Also, it's been stated that the Hulk's "normal" Hulk state goes up to 100 tons of lifting and that's with most universes.

And one more thing, can the Hulk survive an engulfing blast like a Kamehameha or something?

In the Secret Wars one of the bad guys drops a mountain range on a group of heroes, some of whom are unconscious. The bad guys then bugger off, assuming they have killed the good guys, but later on we seem Hulk actually managed to take the impact and is bracing the weight on himself, keeping it off the other guys. According to the cover, it was fifty billion tons or something equally incomprehensible.

Hulk's healing power is a bit inconsistent; he's been shown to regenerate from a near skeletal state to full health in a matter of seconds, yet others he struggles to ward of blows that logically shouldn't trouble him. Depends who is writing him at the time, really. At his peak though, yeah, I don't think he'd be too fussed about a Kamehameha.

At that peak, Hulk easily curbstomps Goku then provided he can touch him. However, in his normal 100 ton state, Goku would win.

Your mistaking 100 ton state for class 100.

Class 100 has no upper limit there's just no real point in seperating strength levels for characters that strong. Considering hulk busters can lift 175 tons and are regular opponents of hulk, this should give you a clue as to how strong hulk is.

Fair enough. I'm not a Goku fanboy so I won't defend him mindlessly. Never realized that Hulk was strong enough to lift an entire mountain range. That's nuts.

To be fair, he doesn't actually lift it per se, he just has it dropped on him and manages to hold it up. Oh, and I just checked. It wasn't fifty billion tons. It was one hundred and fifty billion tons.

Yeah, that's nuts.