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Kim's just running around in the woods now getting chased by mountain lions.

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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2012 12:52 pm

Season 2: 10pm - 11pm

So it turns out the bomb can't be disarmed and it's going to detonate in 1 hour. Someone has to fly it out over the desert so it does as little damage as possible. As soon as that was said I knew it was going to be Mason who did it. But the show insisted on trying to get me to believe it would be Jack. Jack got on the plane and flew it out there and even had a big goodbye talk with Kim, but it was pointless because I knew he wouldn't die.

Mason had snuck onto the plane before it took off and he took over control while Jack parachuted to safety. Of course. Plus it looks like the attack was supported by 3 middle-eastern governments, so now there's a possibility of war. Not to mention, a nuclear bomb just went off relavtively close to a major US city. That's going to take some explaining.

Kim's still wandering around in the middle of nowhere. The goodbye scene with her and Jack was pretty good though.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jun 28, 2012 1:39 pm

Season 2: 11pm - 12pm

The evidence against the 3 countries is probably fake, it seems. Jack got a phone call from someone saying they could prove it, but that Jack had to bring Kate Warner along to some warehouse first. Don't know why, but I think the guy is the missing 7th member of the special forces team that was tracking the bomb.

Kim got embroiled in yet another situation when a convenience store she was in got robbed (sort of) by some guy who was rushing to the mountains because of the bomb.

I get the feeling Kate is going to become a love interest for Jack. Not sure if I like that idea. Jack's now working against CTU as well, since basically had to kidnap Kate to get her out of there and he punched Tony, who is now director there.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2012 12:37 am

Season 2: 12am - 1am

Okay, so it turns out it was the 7th commando who wanted Kate. His job was to make sure the bomb did go off, because certain people want a war in the middle east because of the oil. Jack gave him Kate, which surprised me. But they got into a shootout as soon as they left the building. Presumably the same people that shot Sayed and want the war, because the commando guy can prove the recording of the government officials planning the attack is fake.

So no the rush is to get the evidence before America invades these countries, and the planes that are going to begin the bombing are already on their way there. Which I find a tad dubious to be honest.

I know they want to get as much drama and action as possible into a single day, but I find it hard to believe that even in the event of a nuclear attack, and with clear evidence, the US could launch a simultaneous carpet bombing and sizeable ground invasion of 3 different countries within hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2012 1:31 am

Season 2: 1am - 2am

The commando got shot during the extended shootout and died. Luckily the evidence was hidden inside him, and Jack found it. But his deal was that he would only reveal where the evidence was once he was on a plane, so he was going to screw everyone over. Karma I guess.

Kim's fine now. She's had a busy day though. Domestic violence, grand theft auto, kidnapping, murder charges, escaping custody, wild animals, lonely nutjobs, her father apparently dying, hostage situations... And to top it all off her boyfriend dumped her. Which I'm sure will effect her more than any of other nonsense she's been through.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Jun 29, 2012 2:18 am

Season 2: 2am - 3am

The little chip with the evidence on it also had a tracker. Jack to the tracker to distract the bad guys while the others went back to CTU. Unfortunately Jack got caught and the other guy, who was middle eastern, got dragged out of his car and beaten because everyone's freaking out over terrorists and the bomb.

Jack was being tortured, but he wouldn't talk. So they killed him. Yeah. He's dead right now. Obviously they don't want him dead so they're trying to bring him back, and of course it'll work.

I... don't think Kim was in this episode. I did not miss her.
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Season 2: 3am - 4am

Again, no Kim. And you kno what? It doesn't make the slightest difference to the actual plot. This is how it should have been from the start.

Jack's ability to be up and running minutes after being tortured to death, revived, and then tortured some more is astounding. He's currently engaged in a shootout with the dumbass nobodies that took the chip.

The vice president is trying to get Palmer out of office because he called off the invasion. Frankly I'm not exactly sure why he called it off, since he wanted to wait until the evidence that the tape was faked was verified, and that hasn't happened yet.
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Season 2: 4am - 5am

The tape was damaged so they couldn't get any audio from it, but they discovered who made the fake tape and Jack went to check it out. No one was there but someone showed up. Sherry Palmer. She has to be the most unlikeable character in the show.

Meanwhile Palmer was ousted from the Presidency because he decided not to go to war.

The show feels like it's draggin a bit now. It's been about getting that chip for quite a while now. They finally get it and it's no good. There's been no real developments for a few episodes. There's only 3 episodes left to prove the tape is a fake and then find the people who tried to start a war.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 01, 2012 1:23 am

Season 2: 5am - 6am

A police officer escorted Kim back to the house of her murderous employer, who is still at large, and let her go in alone to collect her stuff. Unsurprisingly, the police officer ended up dead. Kim had to shoot the guy, which was a pretty good scene.

Jack got the guy who made the tape but panicked and ran away. He stabbed Sherry and Jack just left her to chase the dude because A) He's a pro, and B) No one cares about Sherry.
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Season 2: 6am - 7am

Jack inadvertantly killed Alex, the guy who made the tape. So now there's no way to prove that the only evidence to support the war is fake. Jack has another idea though. Sherry can phone Kingsley (the evil business man behidn it all) to set up a meeting. Exchange Alex for the recordings of her meetings with Kingsley, to make Kingsley think she's just trying to cover her own back.

They managed to convinced Kingsley that Alex was alive using the weird technology Alex used to make the fake tape. Apparently, he invented some software that can take a single voice sample, and then create a text-to-voice program that can make that voice say anything. Which sounds like total bullshit to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 01, 2012 1:58 am

Season 2: 7am - 8am

This wasn't nearly as good as the season 1 finale.

Sherry talked to Kingsley and got him to incriminate himself and admit the tape was fake, which was enough for the president to call off the war. Then there was a shootout and so on.

There was a cool moment at the end though. Palmer was giving a public speech about the attack and how they sorted it out and God Bless America and all that stuff. But then, in the crowd, that woman who stole the photographer's ID at the start of season 1 showed up. She shook the president's hand and walked off, then when she was out of sight she peeled a thin film off her hand. Must have been poison, because Palmer collapsed right after.

Personally I hope he dies.

Season 2 wasn't quite as good as season 1 overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 01, 2012 11:51 pm

Season 3: 1pm - 2pm

This seems like a more interesting start. A biological threat this time.

Jack's back at CTU and he's been working undercover for half a year to get this guy named Salazar. They got him and now he's in jail, but his gang have gotten hold of a killer virus and they plan to unleash it unless Salazar is released. The virus kills people in 24 hours and it's highly contagious. It also appears that while undercover Jack got addicted to heroin, so he's going to be battling that along with the terrorists this time.

David Palmer is still alive. It would have been more interesting to have a new president who doesn't hang on Jack Bauer's every word. His brother that has never been mentioned before now is his new chief of staff I think.

There's more nepotism going on. I was waiting anxiously to see what kind of wild adventure Kim was going to have this time, only to find out she's now working at CTU. How the fuck did that happen? Oh and she's dating Jack's new partner, and of course Jack doesn't know. Her old boyfriend who lost a leg in that car accident she caused just kind of slipped her mind, I suppose.

Kate Warner was briefly shown as well. I guess she and Jack got together and then split up for whatever reason. I'm sure it'll be elaborated on further down the line.
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You'll find out that the even numbered seasons are always worse than the uneven seasons.

Kate Warner, the presidential assassination and Max are all tied up in a PS2 game. I think they're not mentioned at all anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2012 1:12 am

Oh him. You mean he never shows up again? What a waste. That makes season 2 even worse (but it's still decent).
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2012 2:11 am

Season 3: 2pm - 3pm

Kim told Jack about her and Chase. He's not that happy about it because... well, he doesn't have a great record when it comes to relationships and he blames the job, and he doesn't want Kim to go through what Teri went through. Which is understandable.

There's also yet another mole inside CTU helping the terrorists out. That's the 3rd one by my count. I don't get how an organisation that can track down international terrorists within hours can have someone working against them from the inside for years and not know about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2012 4:58 am

Season 3: 3pm - 4pm

Wow, that virus got released fast. Except it wasn't the virus. Salazar's gang got some kid to bring the bring the virus into the country. CTU thought the powder he was carrying was the virus, but actually the kid's been infected and in 3 hours he'll become contagious. They managed to find him and get to him pretty damn quickly though. But Tony had to go, despite not being a field agent, because Jack wouldn't let Chase go, because he wants to protect Kim.

Tony got shot. Good going Jack. They don't have the kid either.

This season doesn't seem as split up as the past two seasons. Apart from Palmer's bits about some debate and his new girlfriend and whatever other bullshit he's up to, everything is connected. Kim's at CTU so at least she's involved with the main story this time, and as usual we see what the villains are up to. In season 1 in took a while for everything to come together and in season 2 everything never came together because Kim's story was totally separate, but this time pretty much everything feels cohesive from the get go.

Now that I've seen a couple seasons and know the basic starting plot of this season, I'll hazard a guess at a rough outline of things to come;

They have until 7pm to get that kid contained to stop the virus from spreading. That's episode 6. I'm betting that the kid will get killed before then, which will also stop this particular virus. Then there's the mole at CTU. I reckon that will get dealt with before the Salazar's are caught. Kim will probably get taken hostage or something during this. Chase won't be there because Tony getting shot will show Jack what a mistake it was to sideline Chase, so of course when Chase gets back out in the field something goes down a CTU.

After that they have to catch the Salazar's. Jack will probably do it alone because it's personal. After that, the only remaining question is who made the virus, because it's a bloody advanced virus. There's bound to be some unexpected surprise villain that will crop up about halfway through the series that will be responsible for the virus. I'm going to take a wild guess and say it will be Palmer's new doctor/girlfriend.
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PostSubject: Re: Moose watches 24   Moose watches 24 - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 02, 2012 7:26 am

Season 3: 4pm - 5pm

Well that was unexpected. Jack decided there wasn't enough time to find the kid so the only option was to hand over Salazar. But they couldn't officially just hand him over because that would be giving in to a terrorist demand. So Jack went rogue and is trying to break Salazar out of prison, because that will cover all bases apparently.

He beat up Chase, who was at the prison, and also let all the prisoners out of their cells. Next episode should be pretty wild.
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Season 3: 5pm - 6pm

Well this isn't going how I expected. They found the kid with the virus. Unfortunately it happened right as Jack escpaped the prison so they couldn't tell him. So he's still trying to hand over Salazar for no reason.

Plus someone at CTU found the drugs in Jack's office, so now Kim knows he's an addict.
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Season 3: 6pm - 7pm

Well. The kid who had the virus doesn't have the virus. He never had it. So either the threat was a bluff or something bigger is going on. Either one's possible at this point. Which makes Jack breaking Salazar out completely pointless, because not only did they find the kid in time, but he was never a threat to begin with. I doubt Jack will be too happy about that.

Jack got Salazar to the meeting point but then Jack was knocked out. Salazar's taking Jack back with him. Back at CTU the mole has finally been discovered. By Kim. This has to be the point where she gets taken hostage,the episode ended with Gael (the mole) pointing a gun at her.

Oh and some more boring nonsense with Palmer happened. He's consistently the least interesting part of this series.
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Season 3: 7pm - 8pm

Woah, things just go really confusing. Gael tied Kim up and then tried to run away but they caught him. Meanwhile Jack got free on the plane held Ramone Salazar captive until they landed. At which point Hector Salazar greeted him with open arms. It looks like this whole thing was a plan to get Jack back undercover with the Salazar's and earn their trust. Gael wasn't working for the Salazar, he was monitoring everything to make sure Jack got back in with them, and Tony knew about it.

Which begs the question, why the hell did Gael pull a gun on Kim and try to escape? Why not just say "Hey, you got me. Director Almeada will explain everything when he gets back."? It makes no sense. What was he going to do if he actually managed to escape from CTU? How would that help things?

Plus, from what I've heard, Jack's only been out of cover for 6 months, and Ramone Salazar has only been in prison fo 3 months. What's so important now that they have to get Jack back in so quickly? It might be the virus I guess, but then that means Tony would have known the Salazar's had it long before the threat came in. Wait... It was Gael that made those threat calls. Tony must have known there was no real threat. I can't believe the whole thing, including the virus threat, was just to get Jack back undercover.

I need answers damn it.
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Season 3: 8pm - 9pm

This still doesn't make much sense to me, but it doesn't look like anything else is going to be explained. The whole virus threat was a set up to get Jack back in with the Salazars. There is a virus out there however, and Jack went back undercover to convince the Salazars to buy so CTU could seize it. They were tracking Jack through his watch.

The plan seemed to be working too, until Chase showed up. He did a Bauer and went off on his own to try to track down Jack, but got ambushed. He was brought back to the Salazar's house and they told Jack to kill Chase. And he did. Or would have done, if the gun was loaded. It was just a test by Ramone. But there was a little scuffle and Jack's watch broke, so now CTU have no way of knowing where the deal is happening. Good going Chase.

Things do feel like they're moving really fast this season. I'd have thought the deal and seizing the virus would be finale material, but it's likely the deal will happen before the halfway point. If CTU don't get it and the Salazar's do, things will go to shit.
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Season 3: 9pm - 10pm

Jack went to do the deal, but since CTU doesn't know where he is they can't get the virus. Not that it mattered because the deal didn't happen. Another buyer turned up and outbid the Salazar's. It was Nina. I guess she got that pardon after all. So now Jack's got to get to Nina and get the virus or the Salazar's will kill him. Although they'll probably try to kill him anyway no matter what happens.
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Season 3: 10pm - 11pm

Forgot to mention, while Jack was undercover the first time he was sleeping with Hector's girlfriend, and this time he promised to keep her safe if she helped Chase escape. Which she did, but she was shot during the escape. But Chase is fine.

Jack meanwhile got to Nina and convinced her to work for the Salazars instead of whoever she was working for. She doesn't really trust Jack so she took a whole lot of convincing. For some reason that involved tying Jack up and kissing him. Kinky.

On a related note, Nina is looking a lot hotter than I remember. Must be the longer hair. Michelle suddenly looks very attractive as well. Never noticed that last season.
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