Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:33 pm
DBZ episode 184
Japanese title: “The Tragic No. 16!! An Enraged Super Gohan Begins Taking Action” English title: “Cell Juniors Attack!”
Well, this is the episode where Funi ruined a scene so much that it went from a beautiful scene, possibly the best scene in the entire series, to a generic, boring and bland transformation scene that just really sucks.
First, there’s the innner monologue. In the original, he is silent, but in the dub Gohan starts talking to himself about how he needs to unlock his power to save everyone. THAT’S NOT HOW GOHAN’S INNER POWERS HAVE WORKED, NOR WILL THEY WORK THAT WAY NOW! Gohan’s powers are released in a sudden explosion of anger, of which he himself has no control over. No stupid crap about letting it slip. Just like in real life, when you enter a rage fit, you don’t think “time to rage now!”, you just start punching everything in your sight, without using your mind at all.
Then there’s the horrible dub music. Stupid shitty elevator music that we’ve heard a thousand times already. In the original a song is played in the background, sung by Hironobu Kageyama. It’s a great song, and perfect for this scene. I don’t feel like posting the lyrics, but it’s about an evil soul appearing, releasing your well of power and fighting with all the strength you have. But Funi doesn’t realise what good means so they fuck over the whole scene with their shit.
Then the narrator cuts in immediately after the initial transformation. The narrator’s tale is actually quite epic and gets you fired up for the next episode. He’s pretty much the only saving grace of this whole debacle. ...he does say that Gohan is 11 years old though.
A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:02 pm
HIDDEN POWERS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY! GOOD NIGHT!
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:03 pm
I don't have a subtitled video, but here's the full version of the song used in the original version.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:14 pm
I'm sorry but, that song sounds like shit. I'm glad they removed it.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:26 pm
stfu
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:30 pm
noooo~
SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:00 pm
I'm a huge Gohan fanboy, but I quite liked the dub music.
The scene itself still isn't a patch on the original, mind.
A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:29 pm
The thing about the Japanese music, is it's incredibly Japanese. Like, parody-level Japanese. At least that's how most of it sounds to me. It sounds like the type of music I'd expect hear on something that was taking the piss out of early 90's anime.
But then I don't really bother with the anime, so I don't care that much.
SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:41 pm
Maybe so, but many things of that nature sound way better in Japanese.
Take, for instance, the 2005 release of The Guyver. I still really like this theme tune;
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:42 pm
Roronoa Kaio wrote:
DBZ episode 183
Japanese title: “Teeny Menaces!! Attack of the Cell Juniors” English title: “Android Explosion”
Piccolo: ...he’s also a scared 11 year old boy!
...I don’t care. He’s 9 and that’s final.
Dub #16 fails to mention that the bomb will also destroy all the Z fighters.
And hes supposed to be the good android>_>
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:46 pm
DBZ episode 185
Japanese title: “Devastating True Power!! The Cell Juniors Pulverised” English title: “Awakening”
The 2nd transformation was better in the Funi dub.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:46 pm
DBZ episode 186
Japanese title: “Cell Gets KO’d!! Just 2 Super Ironfisted Blows” English title: “The Unstoppable Gohan”
Nothing to say.
Kaio Internet Celebrity
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:47 pm
DBZ episode 187
Japanese title: “Something Amiss With Cell!! His Perfect Form Crumbles” English title: “Cell’s Break Down”
Again, nothing to say.
Kaio Internet Celebrity
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:47 pm
DBZ episode 188
Japanese title: Bye-Bye, Everyone!! Goku’s Last Instantaneous Movement” English title: “A Hero’s Farewell”
Oh, no! The shitty Cell voice is back!
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:47 pm
Just 2 Super Ironfisted Blows
XD
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:48 pm
DBZ episode 189
Japanese title: “A Nightmare in Broad Daylight!! The Terror Becomes Even More Perfect” English title: “Cell Returns!
Funi changed the part where Cell says that he’ll survive if the nucleus in his head stays intact to something about how every one of his cells have a line on his own. Excellent.
In the dub Vegeta is mad at Goku because according to him he’s the reason Trunks died. In the original he just talks about how Goku (and Gohan) won’t be the ones that kill Cell, but it will be him.
About Trunks’ death, the lines about how he’s going to make it and that he won’t die are dub lines. It’s quite obvious that Trunks is a goner.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:48 pm
DBZ episode 190
Japanese title: “From Goku to Gohan... The Spirit of the Father is Handed Down” English title: “The Horror Won’t End”
Nothing wrong with this ep.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:48 pm
DBZ episode 191
Japanese title: “The Battle is Over... Thank You, Son Goku” English title: “Save the World”
Cell’s death in the dub is far better than his death in the original. Far, far better.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:48 pm
DBZ episode 192
Japanese title: “I’m Going to Train In the Next World!! A Smile at Parting” English title: “Goku’s Decision
What a bittersweet episode...
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:49 pm
DBZ episode 193
Japanese title: “New Days... Father! I’m Hanging In There!” English title: “One More Wish”
The great cyborg cover-up continues all troughout the episode and then suddenly... A ROBOT CAN HAVE A TWIN BROTHER?! Right. And of course no explanation is given at all.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:51 pm
DBZ episode 194
Japanese title: “One More Conclusion!! I Will Defend the Future” English title: “Free the Future”
On the very last episode of the Cell arc... I have nothing to say. ;_;
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:52 pm
WOW!
ON TO THE BUU SAGA.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:52 pm
Now we have that fucking Otherworld Tournament Saga.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:59 am
DBZ episode 195
Japanese title: “A Deep Impression!! There They Are! The Next World’s Awesome Dudes” English title: “Warriors of the Dead
We start off great with the announcer. This was when Kyle Hebert first started doing the narration and it sounds absolutely horrible. He’s clearly imitating Monster Truck Announcer and.. well.. it sucks. Too bad because Hebert’s current announcer voice is great.
To be consistent, Funi decided that every Kai needs a horrible lispy voice.
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Subject: Re: Kaio's great DBZ sub/dub comparison! (Completed!) Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:59 am
DBZ episode 196
Japanese title: “I’m the Best in the Next World!! Heroes of the Ages Assembled” English title: “Tournament Begins”
Luckily for us, East and South Kai have good voices after all.
Wait.. they can say hell as a place where villains go, but they can’t use it as a curse? WHAT’S THE BLOODY DIFFERENCE?!
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