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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:31 am
This will get abused online >_>
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:53 am
And people will lose horribly when they try it against people using normal mode.
Seth Killian himself stated and I QUOTE.
"If you are losing to people on simple mode, then you are doing something wrong."
I don't understand how people immediately think this will make you play better especially since it limits you to one combo per button and you only get one super to use, not to mention using it as Dante is a fantastic way to gimp yourself out as he has 40 Special Moves, the biggest movelist any character in a 2D Fighting game has had.
Superbuu3 Raziel
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:57 am
Baal wrote:
And people will lose horribly when they try it against people using normal mode.
Seth Killian himself stated and I QUOTE.
"If you are losing to people on simple mode, then you are doing something wrong."
I don't understand how people immediately think this will make you play better especially since it limits you to one combo per button and you only get one super to use, not to mention using it as Dante is a fantastic way to gimp yourself out as he has 40 Special Moves, the biggest movelist any character in a 2D Fighting game has had.
How many people just use one special when playing fighting games online? A helluva lot. If there is just one character with a decent special thats got decent speed and recovery, you will see a lot of it online.
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:02 am
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How many people just use one special when playing fighting games online? A helluva lot.
This really only happens with SFIV online and even then any decent player can smack the shit out of some idiot spamming one move.
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If there is just one character with a decent special thats got decent speed and recovery, you will see a lot of it online.
Well no fucking shit. Every fighting game has something like this happen, this does not fucking mean that people are using the god damned simple mode, Buu, this just means they're idiots who spam the same move and win because they're fighting other idiots who don't know what in the hell it is they're doing. People who know how to play the actual game won't have trouble with them and they'll just be annoying to fight because of how monotonous they are.
Superbuu3 Raziel
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:06 am
Baal wrote:
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How many people just use one special when playing fighting games online? A helluva lot.
This really only happens with SFIV online and even then any decent player can smack the shit out of some idiot spamming one move.
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If there is just one character with a decent special thats got decent speed and recovery, you will see a lot of it online.
Well no fucking shit. Every fighting game has something like this happen, this does not fucking mean that people are using the god damned simple mode, Buu, this just means they're idiots who spam the same move and win because they're fighting other idiots who don't know what in the hell it is they're doing. People who know how to play the actual game won't have trouble with them and they'll just be annoying to fight because of how monotonous they are.
Your acting like the average gamer is good. There's so many shit gamers out there its not even funny, or people who just want to be annoying.
This isn't about losing to spammers this is about playing spammers. More people are going to be able to spam. Spamming actually does require a certain level of competence. A lot of people actually struggle with specials in games like SF4. So if spider man webbing up his opponent is available in Simple mode expect to se it lots and lots online, especially with the combo system that can be utilised in simple mode to.
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:12 am
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More people are going to be able to spam.
And? This doesn't matter, you act like people who could barely play Street Fighter don't know how to do a basic fireball motion. This isn't gonna make that much of a difference other than there being a few more spammers and they'll be dealt with just as easily.
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especially with the combo system that can be utilised in simple mode to.
Buu, you act like the combo system in simple mode is some sort of fucking broken thing that will guarantee people infinite combos or some shit, when it won't. You can sit there and spam the attack button but you won't get very far in doing so against actual players.
Superbuu3 Raziel
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:17 am
Baal wrote:
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More people are going to be able to spam.
And? This doesn't matter, you act like people who could barely play Street Fighter don't know how to do a basic fireball motion. This isn't gonna make that much of a difference other than there being a few more spammers and they'll be dealt with just as easily.
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especially with the combo system that can be utilised in simple mode to.
Buu, you act like the combo system in simple mode is some sort of fucking broken thing that will guarantee people infinite combos or some shit, when it won't. You can sit there and spam the attack button but you won't get very far in doing so against actual players.
My point is its gonna be annoying. Its not broken these guys won't win, but they'll be wasting my online fighting time.
Fireball spamming does take a relative amount of skill. If there's someone who's not good i just shoot 3 fireballs at them and normally they end up getting hit, because there not fast enough.
Although i do think the inclusion of simple mode is awesome, I wish they didn't allow you to use it online. Actually it being disabled in ranked match would be fine.
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:21 am
Of course it'll be annoying, but it's not like this is the first time a simple mode was never implemented.
Zero The Hero
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:45 pm
We won't entertain the spammers, we will crush them!
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:25 am
Character moves replaced with character themes because I cannot be assed to keep track of every move someone gets and change it accordingly. Also, since the themes are heard ont heir own on the Japanese site, someone uploaded them to YT with great quality and go ahead and have a listen.
Zero The Hero
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:32 am
Keeping track of every single move would be overboard and extremely tedious for you. Good move. So far, I listened to Ryu's theme which isn't bad.
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:27 am
WHOOPS.
Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:34 am
O_O
Is that Mike Motherfucking Haggar!?!?
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:35 am
Yes Bob, that is Mike motherfucking Haggar. MAN OF BURNING VIGOR, MAYOR OF AMERICA, MIKE FUCKING HAGGAR!
Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:38 am
It is about goddamn time!
Spectrality Deck Hand
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:13 am
Yeah Haggar missed a chance for fighting glory once so it's been a long time coming. I just hope he's not a Gief clone. I mean yeah Hagar paced the way for Gief in SF2 so you could stay he had the original lariat and pile-driver, but fighting game wise he has yet to have a full move-set. I still hope Rolento gets a about on the roster...
Superbuu3 Raziel
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:47 am
Spectrality wrote:
Yeah Haggar missed a chance for fighting glory once so it's been a long time coming. I just hope he's not a Gief clone. I mean yeah Hagar paced the way for Gief in SF2 so you could stay he had the original lariat and pile-driver, but fighting game wise he has yet to have a full move-set. I still hope Rolento gets a about on the roster...
He got rejected from the SSF4 add on so we can only hope.
Baal Shut Up and Jam
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Subject: Re: The Official MvC3EX Hype Topic (Part 1) Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:13 pm