One piece sub (up to date anime - no manga) MAJOR-SPOILERS

That's because Garp's a motherfucking beast.

2010's last couple of episodes:

479. In Front of the Execution Platform! The Path to Ace is Opened!!
480. The Path they Each Chose - Luffy vs. Garp!
481. Ace Freed! Whitebeard's Final Captain's Order!

Kaio wrote:

2010's last couple of episodes:

479. In Front of the Execution Platform! The Path to Ace is Opened!!
480. The Path they Each Chose - Luffy vs. Garp!
481. Ace Freed! Whitebeard's Final Captain's Order!

These worth saving up and watching in one go Kaio?

Nah, this is when the war gets really exciting. There's 11 chapters left to cover (so probably 11 episodes) and they were all great and made it worth reading weekly. And next episode has another OMG CROCODILE scene.

Awww shit yeah.

OMGCROC

Who's got the conquerer's will?

We know Luffy has and Hancock as they have been specifically stated.

I'd also guess Shanks, Whitebeard is there anyone else up to this point?

I wouldn't be suprised if Rayleigh had this.

Also was the Luffy courthouse punch a haki punch?

I think Shanks was also stated to have it.

Skip wrote:

I think Shanks was also stated to have it.

I don't remember it being stated but he did knock out that sea king when he lost his arm and whitebeards crew just for the lulz. So it was fairly blatent.

Whitebeard must have it but i don't remember him showing us, I also struggle to believe Rayleigh wouldn't have it and be effectively one of the strongest people in the world. I'm guessing we'll find out next episode if anyone else has it due to there reactions.

I remember something about it when Shanks visited Whitebeard's ship. One of the crew commented on his Haki being stronger than most of them could handle or something.

Skip wrote:

I remember something about it when Shanks visited Whitebeard's ship. One of the crew commented on his Haki being stronger than most of them could handle or something.

Oh yeah I forgot someone actually said something along those lines.

I hope that Sengoku moves his ass i want to see him do something.

Also whitebeard is shit, I don't think anyone sucks more then he does after his huge build up. He's basically a tank and seems to lack any decent fighting ability, he's done nothing that amazing yet at all and he's blatently going to die soon.

I dunno if Sengoku would move, he's like the only one with Ace. I doubt he'd leave his post.

Whitebeard is 80 years old + he can't go all out because Ace is defenseless.

Besides, Whitebeard's a bro, trusting Luffy like that.

He leaves himself wide open like all the time, thats hardly a good idea.

Mr. 3 is bro of the week.

Final scene looked pretty.

So what exactly is Sengoku's ability?

Human Human Fruit, Model: Great Buddha

Comes from an SBS, so you probably won't hear it from the anime.

Ahh, thanks, I was thinking something different.

I thought it was a buddha thing. He's gonna pull out that move from kung fu hustle i bet.

Ahaha pathetic marines, now Ace will go apeshit on your ass!!!

He will solo you all, idiots!!



...oh.

Lol

I know Ace was supposed to be weakened but i think his effort has still been pretty poor, Luffy's been on the verge of death constantly here and he was meant to be weaker then Ace without even considering devil fruit powers. All he really did was melt some ice.

"Some ice" still with the power of an admiral behind it.

Luffy's only big feat in terms of power this arc has been taking down a fodder giant.

Kaio wrote:

"Some ice" still with the power of an admiral behind it.

Luffy's only big feat in terms of power this arc has been taking down a fodder giant.

All the stuff in the Impel down arc that occured after he got owned by magellan the first time I would count as being pretty major even if it wasn't in this arc, seeing as he was close to death, shortened lifespan etc. Luffy also took a full power hit from Fleet admiral Sengoku I think thats impressive to. He's tried to take on multiple powerful foes and if it weren't for him the whitebeard forces wouldn't have gotten as forward as he did. Won't bother thinking of individual hits as I don't know whats filler.

Ace should be one of the strongest pirates in the whole war. His power was also best suited for stopping said ice to (except possibly Kizaru), I don't think haki or skill came into unleashing a firey blast at another logia who was using the opposite element. Just like i wouldn't really think it was a power feat on Aokiji's part. Mr 3 could block a bunch of attacks from a bunch of pirates but it wouldn't be a strength feat, as he's clearly completely out of his league in this war.

Luffy had hormones and meat after Magellan and didn't receive much damage from the way up. After that he got a moment of rest on the ship.

He never truly took on powerful foes, he tried to dodge them, but they attacked him and dealt damage. Every time he was saved by an ally and he was able to move on, but without them he would've been taken out by his first opponent (Smoker). He tanked an attack from Sengoku, but it wasn't Ambition imbedded, so his rubber body protected him from taking damage.

Ace is much worse off than Luffy. He was utterly defeated by Blackbeard and the first time we see him in ID (a week before the start of the war) he already looks like he's on the verge of death.

Finally, the priority is to run away as fast as possible. most of Luffy and Ace's fighting is filler in this episode. In the manga they take out a couple of grunts, they run, Ace clashes with Aokiji in one panel and they continue running. There's really no time for Ace to show powerful he is (which isn't really that powerful as he doesn't even control basic Ambition).

First part of that fair enough. I'm always aware filler makes people look more useless as they can't do anything significant in it. I thought we saw blood from luffy's mouth when he got hit by Sengoku or at least something indicating it was haki based.

Kaio wrote:

Finally, the priority is to run away as fast as possible. most of Luffy and Ace's fighting is filler in this episode. In the manga they take out a couple of grunts, they run, Ace clashes with Aokiji in one panel and they continue running. There's really no time for Ace to show powerful he is (which isn't really that powerful as he doesn't even control basic Ambition).

Seriously how the fuck did he become 2nd division commander. IIRC all the vice admirals were supposed to have haki, and he should be stronger then them. I get he's a logia hence powerful but really anyone with decent enough haki would still be a significant threat to him.