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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:49 am | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:33 pm | |
| I screamed like a girl at the Spidey reveal.
it's so perfect, the suit looks fucking cool, and just the way he says "hi everyone" is just so typically him. fucking hyped now. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:29 pm | |
| Suit needs a lot of work. Luckily the MCU changes costumes with every movie to sell more toys. | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:14 am | |
| I think the suit looks absolutely fantastic, the eyes actually move, that's like the best thing. | |
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Dr. Chocolate Spartan
Posts : 1705 Joined : 2009-05-14 Location : Who cares?
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:34 pm | |
| I saw a funny video, had to gif this bit from it. And wonder who would be in that scene if Sony did not screw up the Amazing Spider-Man series as badly as they did in both production and marketing. | |
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Skip Australianus
Posts : 10290 Joined : 2009-07-02 Age : 32 Location : Just Under Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:03 pm | |
| I went to see this yesterday, I quite liked it. - Spoiler:
My favourite scenes were definitely those containing Spiderman and Antman though. I think I've found out that I enjoy Marvel movies most when they don't take themselves seriously.
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:55 pm | |
| I absolutely loved Spider-Man, totally hyped for the solo movie now. This is exactly the Spidey that i've known and loved for years and it was the fucking best thing ever from Marvel for me. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:58 pm | |
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Someone tell Spider-Man to watch that gosh darn language if he wants to stay in the MCU!
And thank God for that climax. While it wasn't totally unexpected, given that the trailers showed a two-on-one fight between Iron Man and Cap n' Bucky that would happen at some point, I was still a little fearful that the final showdown would involve that nameless Winter Soldier gang waking up and raising fists at the last minute. They were so overshadowed by the warring sides plotline that I really hoped they weren't going to be wedged in at the last second. Then we got a fake out and the big fight between the three occurs.
I imagine some people will be overly critical of Tony Stank letting his emotions easily getting the better of him even though he should be aware that Bucky's situation is complicated, but it's still a much better climax than the idea of Winter Soldier rip offs taking center stage. And it was his mama and papa, so, c'mon, REVENGEANCE!
Also, Black Panther was pretty cool. I actually kinda favor him over Spidey when it came to the new peeps. Probably because he's more relevant to the overall storyline and plays into the theme of REVENGEANCE, whereas Spidey feels almost (ALMOST) shoehorned in... in a good and entertaining way.
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Mon May 02, 2016 6:53 pm | |
| Just back from seeing it, and I have mixed feelings. I didn't think it was quite as strong as most of the reviews are saying, it certainly wasn't as strong as The Winter Soldier. I did enjoy it, I enjoyed a lot, just not as much as I'd hoped I would do.
I'll spend a day digesting my thoughts and mark up some spoiler talk. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri May 06, 2016 10:39 am | |
| I was really dissappointed by this. - Spoiler:
- There's a Winter Soldier sequel movie here and a Civil War movie and they never really come together well. The Sokovia Accords don't even get mentioned anymore or are relevant about halfway into the movie. Cap and pals would be on the run regardless of any superhero regulation after breaking Bucky out
- Spider-Man's personality is way too over the top and this is partly because Marvel had all their characters steal Spidey's shtick of making jokes all the time. The only solution was to make Spidey an even more exaggerated jokester. I did love his physicality though and the Peter Parker scenes. Not looking forward to even more Tony in the Spider-Man solo film though.
- On that subject of jokes, why was everyone joking around and having fun during the scene where they're beating the shit out of their friends? The rest of the movie is fairly serious, so why the hell did this turn into a comedy during what should be a dramatic moment?
- Turns out Tony and Steve are as easily manipulated as Batman and Superman. There was a lot of PIS inolved with these two.
- The action sequences were as exciting as Winter Soldier. The scenes with Cap/Bucky/Sam(/Sharon) were great
- Basically fuck RDJ for refusing a smaller pay for a Cap 3 cameo and forcing Marvel to turn it into Civil War
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Fri May 06, 2016 4:08 pm | |
| I really liked it. A lot more so than The Winter Soldier. Especially more than Batman V Superman, and there were a lot more similarities between the two than I expected. The major difference being the characters were likeable and I could understand what was happening and why. - Spoiler:
Also holy shit that scene with young RDJ was unbelievable.
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sat May 07, 2016 11:55 am | |
| Why is Captain America such a selfish, arrogant cunt? | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 9:18 am | |
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Because you need a selfish, arrogant cunt to counter a man who would blackmail a teenager into fighting a bunch of superheroes.
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 9:49 am | |
| Wouldn't have needed to do anything if not for aforementioned cunt doing cunty things.
That more or less sums up the entire movie, actually. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 9:53 am | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 10:13 am | |
| Guys let's prove we don't need regulation by causing millions of dollars worth of damage to public property. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
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| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 10:35 am | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 08, 2016 2:15 pm | |
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- Guys let's prove we don't need regulation by causing millions of dollars worth of damage to public property.
I don't think Cap was ever out to prove that they could control themselves or act more responsibly on their own without the need for oversight. His thing was he just wanted free reign do whatever he thought was right, like he'd been doing all along. Which is completely arrogant, but he's Captain America and it's worked for him so far. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sat May 21, 2016 7:20 pm | |
| Thought the film was excellent. Hard to say if it was better than 2. Mainly because of the slow build up (albeit an intersting one), the film had a great second act, but the third act was some what underwhelming. I thought the parallels with dawn of justice was interesting as it really showed how it should have been done. - Spoiler:
I dont see how not siding with Iron Man even made sense. The signing of the accords was not here or there ultimately Cap broke teh law to protect a friend he was convinced broke the law. If he believed Bucky didn't do it I'd have been able to back him up more. On top of that he left all of his new friends to goto prison. I really get the impression if cap signed and didn't fight the cops in berlin, he could've done exactly as he'd done and people would have trsuted him and not got all his friend arrested. I really just think he was the real ego in the film.
Ant man and spiderman were both amazing and i can't wait for the next films those two are in. EDIT: on another note i felt that this film felt like Cap saying we have rights to arms, whereas Iron man was all like we need laws for our guns, but maybe i just cant help but seeing that because of Captain America being all America Fuck yeah world police. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 22, 2016 12:00 am | |
| Everyone seems to think one side was obviously right, but it's pretty evenly split between the two. Which means the film did a good job. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 22, 2016 6:57 am | |
| - Superbuu3 wrote:
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I really get the impression if cap signed and didn't fight the cops in berlin, he could've done exactly as he'd done and people would have trsuted him and not got all his friend arrested. I really just think he was the real ego in the film.
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If he had signed, he would have only been able to do what he was told to do. He'd be going against their new regulations if he acted on his own and would get in trouble for being a naughty, naughty boy. He was also uncomfortable with the idea of being sent to places they wouldn't want to be sent to or be deployed only when they were told to (like when cities are already getting fucked up and the Avengers are some sort of last resort). Freedom is a big deal to him. Braveheart is his favourite movie.
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 22, 2016 3:23 pm | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- Everyone seems to think one side was obviously right, but it's pretty evenly split between the two. Which means the film did a good job.
Well with half the world being wrong I guess it mirrors reality. - SOK wrote:
- Superbuu3 wrote:
- Spoiler:
I really get the impression if cap signed and didn't fight the cops in berlin, he could've done exactly as he'd done and people would have trsuted him and not got all his friend arrested. I really just think he was the real ego in the film.
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If he had signed, he would have only been able to do what he was told to do. He'd be going against their new regulations if he acted on his own and would get in trouble for being a naughty, naughty boy. He was also uncomfortable with the idea of being sent to places they wouldn't want to be sent to or be deployed only when they were told to (like when cities are already getting fucked up and the Avengers are some sort of last resort). Freedom is a big deal to him. Braveheart is his favourite movie.
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Of course he'd been in trouble but it would've avoided the middle fight. It literally wouldve panned out directly except he wouldve had a chance to talk Iron Man down. This would've avoided all his friends being arrested.Clearly something dodgy happened at SHIELD and it wouldnt have taken rocket science to work out. Fact is Caps the kind of guy who says he believes in people but ultimately thought his friend was a killer and ran off with him when his friend didn't do anything. That really makes him the biggest dick in the film. It basically says its ok to do anything if youre cap friends and that he's above the law.
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: Captain Amuricah: Civil War Sun May 22, 2016 5:20 pm | |
| - Superbuu3 wrote:
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Of course he'd been in trouble but it would've avoided the middle fight. It literally wouldve panned out directly except he wouldve had a chance to talk Iron Man down. This would've avoided all his friends being arrested.Clearly something dodgy happened at SHIELD and it wouldnt have taken rocket science to work out. Fact is Caps the kind of guy who says he believes in people but ultimately thought his friend was a killer and ran off with him when his friend didn't do anything. That really makes him the biggest dick in the film. It basically says its ok to do anything if youre cap friends and that he's above the law.
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I don't think much would change at that point. If he's going to run off and act on his own, help Bucky, and form that group to take on Zemo and his Winter Soldier rip off gang, Iron Man would be pissed that he did a 180 on him and that whole airport battle would ensue anyway 'cause they'd have to be taken in after conspiring to go a thwart some guy without any authorization (which does give credence to Kaio's whole thing about the Sokovia Accords irrelevancy, lol). What's weird is, and I may need some help remembering some of the details here, did Tony get off scot-free at the end of the film? He went flying off to assist Steve and Bucky behind Ross' back, didn't he? Was there some sort of punishment that resulted from his shenanigans at the end? Anyway, at the end of the day, it's the lack of a compromise behind those hastily ratified accords that truly broke everything. There is only one winner here: - Spoiler:
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