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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Thu May 02, 2013 6:51 pm | |
| - Neo wrote:
- I honestly think this is the best game on the 3DS so far though so you should definitely give the demo a try, if you end up buying it you can always ask for pointers.
Agreed. As I said at the start of the topic, it's even usurped Ocarina of Time as my favourite 3DS game, which is not bad going considering OoT is, despite its age, still one of the best games ever made. Neo, I see you paired Chrom with Olivia, what other pairings have you opted for? Bearing in mind this is my first play through and I'm going for what feels right rather than what is necessarily optimal, I've gone for; Chrom x Sumia MC x Lissa Donnel x Nowi Stahl x Sully (though I rarely use either now) Frederick x Tharja (don't ask why, it just... works.) And thus far that's it. Check out Owain's stat total... - Spoiler:
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 06, 2013 6:13 pm | |
| My matchups are: - Quote :
- Stahl x Miriel - Stahl gives Laurent Vantage (always attack first when <50% hp) which is great for a Sorcerer who can heal themselves.
Ricken x Lissa - I was told that Owain actually makes the best Sage in the game when built correctly so this is for Ricken's great magic stats, no real other reason. Henry x Sumia - I love Dark Fliers and Henry was my only option for Sumia that boosts magic. Lon'qu x Cordelia - Want Lon'qu's fantastic speed/skill stats on Severa as she's supposedly the best unit in the game bar Morgan. Vaike x Cherche - Gerome has good physical attacking stats already, Vaike gives him +7 strength on top of it all. Kellam x Nowi - Manaketes are tanky as hell already, Kellam gives +7 defense and, on a lesser note, +3 resistance. Donnel x Sully - I was starting to lack options at this point but Donnel passes down Armsthrift (weapons don't lose durability based on a percentage equal to twice your luck) which is aa beast of a skill. Gaius x Tharja - Gives Noire access to Galeforce. Virion x Panne - Another one where I was lacking options, Virion gives pretty good stats though. Libra x Maribelle - Boosts magic and gives access to Sorcerer. That's everyone paired that matters except MU, I haven't decided who to pair him with yet. Most likely one of the magic using children as I picked +Mag -Str when I created him. I wasn't kidding when I said I was playing a eugenics simulator. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 06, 2013 7:45 pm | |
| I also added; Lon'Qu x Cordelia - Severa is awesome. - Spoiler:
I'm almost at the end of the game story-wise, just finished Chapter 23 and after some revelations I'm moving into what I expect to be the last couple of chapters now. (I've avoided all spoilers / walkthroughs etc thus far, and have enjoyed the game more for doing so).
Play time is a little over 60 hours, though I have a good chunk of time grinding pre-EXPonential growth trying to power up Owain and Morgan. Lucina wasn't so lucky, I didn't understand the game's inheritance system by the time she joined, but she's pretty good now, certainly way stronger than Chrom. My current three strongest units are Owain, Nah and Morgan, in that order. Owain has hit max in four of his stats, Morgan in three and Nah in two, so I reckon they'll all cap around the 300-310 mark. Incidentally, I used a Second Seal on Owain to get Armsthrift for his forged Brave Sword (yes, it's a beastly skill), and in the process of Class Changing he lost just under hundred skill points. That hurt a bit, especially as he then had no stat growth at all until I got him back up to level 10 and could Master Seal him again. EDIT: see below - Spoiler:
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Tue May 07, 2013 2:53 am | |
| I'm not actually sure if a 300+ stat total is possible without some, currently unavailable in Europe, DLC abilities. My Owain has maxed every stat except resistance, which can potentially go up about 8 more points from memory, and his current total is 285. | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Tue May 07, 2013 6:50 am | |
| Maxed out MU completely as a Grandmaster, his stat total is 288 or, if I include stat boosting skills, 295. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Tue May 07, 2013 8:17 pm | |
| Just beat it, and what an absolutely wonderful game it was. Final play time was around 65 hours, though that was a long way from being optimal - I still have several side quests untouched or even unavailable due to not having the support prerequisites. Huge spoilers! - Spoiler:
At the end of the game, you're given a choice between allowing Chrom the final blow to Grima, or delivering it yourself. Allowing Chrom to deal it means Grima is defeated but only succeeds in putting him in a thousand year slumber. MU delivering the blow - being part of Grima himself - will kill the Fell Dragon for good, yet MU will also perish. I opted for the latter. One life for millions of future lives? No contest for the strategist, surely?
The ending rolls, showing MU briefly saying goodbye to Chrom as he disappears from existence, then the rest of the crew all have their say, Chrom basically saying he believes MU is still out there somewhere, as Naga had told him that the fiercest bonds - like those between MU, Crom et al - are not so easily broken, and that Chrom will devote himself to finding his closest friend.
The credits roll whilst you get a little breakdown of what everyone does with themselves after Grima's defeat. The paired ones are interesting, but the individual ones are, frankly, a little underwhelming. The words "The End" appear on screen, but Awakening has another trick up its sleeve; the game appears to be starting again, MU overhearing Chrom and Lissa talking, reciting their lines from the opening scene, and I'm expecting it to throw the time travel loop at me and suggest MU will just repeat ad infinitum. Still, Chrom takes MU's hand, and this time it's missing the brand present for their first encounter - later revealed to be Grima's brand - and smiles, before saying "welcome back."
Hell yeah, I'm back bitches! Cliché and a little cheesy it may have been, but it didn't half put a huge smile on my face.
What an utterly fantastic game. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Tue May 07, 2013 8:26 pm | |
| I reloaded my previous save and tried the other ending... - Spoiler:
... allowing Chrom to deliver the final blow. As everyone celebrates Grima's defeat, MU seems troubled, racked with guilt that he didn't act when he felt he should have done. Chrom reassures him that even if Grima does reappear in the future, his bloodline will always be waiting to fight and that MU is needed in the here and now, and the fellowship agree, all thankful the sacrifice of their friend wasn't required.
In my game, Lissa, Owain and Morgan (MU's wife, son, and daughter respectively) all had more personal dialogue pieces with MU before the credits roll. Here though, there's no end scene, the game simply ends when the credits are done.
I chose right the first time, MU taking the final blow is the more satisfying and emotional outcome.
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Tue May 07, 2013 8:33 pm | |
| Incidentally, Owain and Morgan both capped at 297 (Hero vocation), MU levelling up so slowly I struggled to get him to 260, though he did still have some room to grow - he might have reached 270 but not much higher, at least not without picking a class solely to squeeze an extra point or two out of. | |
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Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
Posts : 7185 Joined : 2008-08-01 Age : 38 Location : The Left Side of Who Gives a Fuck
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Fri May 10, 2013 3:55 am | |
| So, Yeah, This is satisfying. Didn't realize how much I'd missed playing a game even remotely similar to FF:Tactics. My 3DS will almost never get any rest now. lol | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Sun May 12, 2013 11:22 pm | |
| I restarted as a female MU, and ten hours in have just played through Chapter twelve, having married Chrom and given birth to baby Lucina. My own stats are, frankly, ridiculous for this stage of the game, with a stat total in the region of 245 points and some awesome skills; finally, my MU has Galeforce!
Hopefully, this will make serve to make Lucina even stronger than in the last game, though it remains to be seen whether or not she can topple the sheer power of an MU x Lissa spawned Owain. Something I'd not noticed previously, on account of skipping it almost every time, but Sumia is actually shown with Chrom (holding Lucina) in the opening movie, so I guess she is the canonical choice for his wife (and was indeed my preferred option during the first play through).
I downloaded the Harvest Scramble DLC pack (which basically has ample opportunity for raising supports), yet the first map is actually quite tough for a low level party as some of the Entombed have Luck maxed out at 50, and possess both Counter and Miracle, meaning they can reflect back huge damage and survive attacks that should kill them. A low level party simply won't be able to survive the counter, and even if they do, they'll be in poor shape when Miracle kicks in and you move to enemy phase... | |
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Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
Posts : 7185 Joined : 2008-08-01 Age : 38 Location : The Left Side of Who Gives a Fuck
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 1:27 am | |
| On the one playthrough, I'm having my female lead go after Chrom, While on the other having the female lead go for Frederick. ...Something's going to fuck up my plans on female lead #2, Isn't it? Because Fred just seems so boss that he practically screams plot-forced death. | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 2:53 am | |
| Counter only works on attacks made from melee range, I beat that map pretty easily by abusing enemy attack ranges + galeforce with mages and archers.
Be careful using Fred too much, it's common in FE games to be given a character who's extremely strong early, on due to high base stats and being a promoted class, but who drops off hard in the midgame because of poor stat growths. He's also a pretty bad father from a eugenics point of view. | |
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brandon Basement Butterfly
Posts : 15472 Joined : 2008-08-04 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 3:40 am | |
| are there cute female myrmidons/swordmasters in this? | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 4:19 am | |
| Yes, the class changing mechanic and characters from previous games being free DLC means you can get the most cute myrmidons out of any FE game. | |
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brandon Basement Butterfly
Posts : 15472 Joined : 2008-08-04 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 4:21 am | |
| i saw lyndis. is mia in this too? they're my fav girls | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 13, 2013 7:46 am | |
| - Neo wrote:
- Counter only works on attacks made from melee range, I beat that map pretty easily by abusing enemy attack ranges + galeforce with mages and archers.
I perhaps should have specified that I tried the map a few play hours earlier and that my low level party had no access to Galeforce, my archers and mages were all too weak to deal any damage to the higher level Entombed, and that my average stat total was around 70 at the time, only MU being above that (around 170 at the time, but no ranged attacks and no Galeforce.) On the subject of the early-game heavy hitter, it's not always the case that their growths suck; Seth from Sacred Stones for example. His growths were still pretty good, even right up until the last 20% of the game when Kyle and co would likely have drawn level. | |
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Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
Posts : 7185 Joined : 2008-08-01 Age : 38 Location : The Left Side of Who Gives a Fuck
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Wed May 15, 2013 5:08 am | |
| - Dawn of Dreams wrote:
- i saw lyndis. is mia in this too? they're my fav girls
Going through the list from the importable characters (I'm guessing that what it is, I didn't try it.) I found the name "Mia". I think it under something with the word "Radiant" or "Radiance" or something. It was part of a free DLC thingy from SpotPass or something. Basically, Just play through until you get the option to go into Wireless Mode. It should be there somewhere. | |
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brandon Basement Butterfly
Posts : 15472 Joined : 2008-08-04 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Wed May 15, 2013 5:16 am | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Wed May 15, 2013 4:45 pm | |
| I'm convinced that nothing in the game, not counting unreleased DLC obviously, can hurt Kellam!Nah outside of an assassin getting a lucky OHKO proc. She's absolutely ridiculous, even with a normal dragonstone and no partner her stat total is almost 330 - without MAG capped out. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Sat May 18, 2013 11:57 am | |
| Next time through im going to try and make a third Gen morgan to try and min/max her stats. | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Sun May 19, 2013 6:33 am | |
| Grinding up Severa's MAG is absolute hell, though even at 30 I'm seeing the potential. | |
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Rockstar_Sinistar Gary
Posts : 7185 Joined : 2008-08-01 Age : 38 Location : The Left Side of Who Gives a Fuck
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Wed May 22, 2013 7:03 am | |
| Hells Fuck... - Spoiler:
Fucking Walhart's an asshole. ...Or maybe I'm doing something wrong, Which is most likely the case as I've just been beasting with MU, Chrom, Vaike, Lon'Qu, Donny, & Fred. >_>
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Sun May 26, 2013 1:56 pm | |
| - Neo wrote:
- Grinding up Severa's MAG is absolute hell, though even at 30 I'm seeing the potential.
Yeah, my Sevara currently has MAG around 10, despite everything else having already maxed out in mid to high forties and a total skill pool of around 260. Skill and Speed even managed to breach the 50's so she can use all her skills with greatly increased frequency, dodges almost everything thrown at her and get x2 attacks even on supposedly swift enemy units. As an added bonus, it means Armsthrift now essentially gives her unbreakable weapons. Unbreakable Brave weapons is just... well, broken. The irony. | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Sun May 26, 2013 9:10 pm | |
| It's worth maxing it out if you can be bothered, now that I've done it I just have to decide whether I want an invincible Dark Flier or an even more invincible (thanks to Nosferatu/Aversa's Night) Sorcerer. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: Fire Emblem Awakening Mon May 27, 2013 12:52 pm | |
| Out of interest, what did your Kellam!Nah top out at? I initially went DonnelxNowi (before understanding the possibilities different fathers could bring to the table), and Nah is now maxed at;
Str 43 (+11 with Dragonstone +) Mag 36 (+6) Skill 34 (+5) Spd 33 (+4) Lck 50 Def 45 (+13) Res 42 (+9)
This gives her a total of 331, some thirty four points above Owain and Morgan, who are currently sat at 297 with only Res still to max. Heck, even Nowi is around 290 in Manakete form, and she's not maxed anything. What on earth would happen to Morgan if MU married Nah? A 3rd Gen Manakete Morgan would be absolutely monstrous, game-breaking even. Can't wait to try it out. | |
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