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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:37 am | |
| Korean (I think) horror film. Buu said it actually made him scream out loud, so I figured I'd give it a go.
A girl comes back home after some kind of mental treatment, presumably all better. But then ghosts and her insane step-mother fuck everything up. Pretty decent film. Rarely lets up once the tension kicks in and never gives a safe perspective on events, so even at the end you don't know exactly which bits were supposed to be real. In fact it does the opposite in some cases, giving you an outside perspective that still seems unreal.
I'm curious to know which bit made Buu scream now. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:40 am | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:45 am | |
| Yeah, I thought it might be that bit. Definitely the biggest jump-scare I've seen for a while.
I watched Dark Water too. Not as good. Way too many questions at the end (and I don't even mean questions about the ending, just questions in general). | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:50 am | |
| There's quite a lot to get my sister pointed out a important thing, the mother and daughter say identical lines about there mother.
I think we're to assume her mom died in a similar way. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:55 am | |
| I just had no clue what the ghost's motivation was, whether we were supposed to sympathise with it, why it targeted the mother and daughter... So many things. And what about the girl's father? Why didn't she haunt him instead?
And the effects were a bit silly. That didn't help. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:09 am | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- I just had no clue what the ghost's motivation was, whether we were supposed to sympathise with it, why it targeted the mother and daughter... So many things. And what about the girl's father? Why didn't she haunt him instead?
And the effects were a bit silly. That didn't help. - Spoiler:
Me and my sister were actually talking about this and how the western versions of these films are kinda simplified. I think its because people aren't so famliar with ghost lore. I mean there's a bunch of things they don't say in the film that are kinda just common knowledge for asians.
So i'll try and fill you in on the general gist. Essentially a ghost is not good or bad it can just be. In this case we have a confused ghost who most likely doesn't even understand its dead. It was looking for its mother, who was essentially the same person as the ikuko's mother and grandmother. We were debating if this was some kind of curse the family was under, because it was only ikuko's mother who makes the sacrifice to appease the ghost. The ghost was essentially a child who thought she was playing with another girl and hence just wanted to play with ikuko. Thing was the ghost seemed to get jealous of the mother daughter bond, notice how she never actually tries to kill ikuko just harms her, she possibly didn't even know what she was doing.
Ghosts are also intrinsically linked to places they spent lots of time and the element that kills them, Mitsuko was killed by water so that was her element. This is possibly the reason she was able to manifest in the school during the rainy day or it was possibly the bond with the building.
You probably think i've made a ridiculous leap of judgement here but think about it there's no reason for the similar flashbacks, the fact the mother behaved as ikuko and all the simlarities between the mother and daughter. Honestly if you can connect all the dots this is possibly one of the best written horror films ever.
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:16 am | |
| That was another thing. The girl died in a pretty stupid way. If you're going to be a freaky ghost and haunt people and nearly kill them, you need a better reason than ignorance is all I'm saying. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:22 am | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- That was another thing. The girl died in a pretty stupid way. If you're going to be a freaky ghost and haunt people and nearly kill them, you need a better reason than ignorance is all I'm saying.
Western horror makes some nonsense excuses for ghosts i.e. satanic rituals, a full moon or anniversary to an event and those things aren't how ghosts are supposed to come about, the huge cultural shift would be lost on people. Whereas this kind of horror film is meant to be scarier due to the fact its close to the realms of reality but not seeing as ghosts existing is considered nonsense. Its impossible to explain cultural differences, but speaking as someone who has been raised on a similar culture I can safely say this film does it pretty much flawlessly, ignoring that stupid mask the girl wears near the end of the film. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:23 am | |
| Also, throughout Two Sisters I was constantly wondering if Su-Mi was that Korean woman from Lost, or maybe her sister or something, since she looked exactly like her but younger. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:25 am | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- Also, throughout Two Sisters I was constantly wondering if Su-Mi was that Korean woman from Lost, or maybe her sister or something, since she looked exactly like her but younger.
They do look familiar but they're not in anything else. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:27 am | |
| - Superbuu3 wrote:
- Whereas this kind of horror film is meant to be scarier due to the fact its close to the realms of reality
It definitely did that, but it just wasn't scarier because of it. By the end the whole thing almost felt mundane, like there was nothing particularly special or out of the ordinary about what happened. Which dampens the effect for me. Pun intended. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:31 am | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- Superbuu3 wrote:
- Whereas this kind of horror film is meant to be scarier due to the fact its close to the realms of reality
It definitely did that, but it just wasn't scarier because of it. By the end the whole thing almost felt mundane, like there was nothing particularly special or out of the ordinary about what happened. Which dampens the effect for me. Pun intended. Its not meant to scare its meant to unsettle. Its like after you watched ring the first time and you wake up and notice the tv screen next to you. Its hard to say but this kind horror film is meant to make you be scared after the film has ended. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:34 am | |
| I can't recall any horror film ever doing that. I was bit worried that a giant monster might attack my home after seeing Cloverfield though. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:37 am | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- I can't recall any horror film ever doing that. I was bit worried that a giant monster might attack my home after seeing Cloverfield though.
Did you watch blair witch in the cinema? Thats pretty much the only way of watching a film i can think that actually shat up every single person i knew. Dark water clearly left me tense seeing as how i was losing it for most of tale of two sisters. Western horror films basically never have that effect on me, although that said i think omen the original films probably did those were scary. But i watched them when was really little. The effects probably look terrible now. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:46 am | |
| Did you ever see The Orphanage? That was great. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:51 am | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:58 am | |
| It's not actually that scary overall, but there's some jumps. If you've ever seen Devil's Backbone, it's that kind of thing. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:07 am | |
| I don't know anyone with those films I'll see if its on lovefilm later but i'm cancelling subscription to that soon
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:18 pm | |
| I just looked up this film on amazon and dark water to, and man do people completely miss the point of the films.
It makes me laugh how anyone can call either of the films predictable if you consider all the extra implications of a lot of the stuff. I wouldn't mind watching both of these again. That said i dunno if its best to leave tale of two sisters to be the only film that literally made me scream, because its kinda cool that a film did that to me. | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:25 pm | |
| sounds like a movie I need to see, this Two Sisters things...
I'd kill to see a movie that actually manages to scare me or creep me out... I'm a huge horror fan, but everything is so tame lately, it's all about the gore (which is cool too) but I want the scares man.
last movie I had scares in was Drag Me To Hell.. and only because the scares in it were totally unpredictable.. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:37 pm | |
| Uh, well the reason this was scary to me was dark water unsettled me and this film doesn't really stop. They go beyond the point things normally do in horror films that said i think it's definitely worth a watch if your into horror movies. | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:38 pm | |
| already downloading it so I can see it tonight so is this in English or do i need to find some subtitles? | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:06 pm | |
| hmm, i just learned The Uninvited was a remake of this... The Uninvited was kinda lame, so I hope the original is better | |
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:28 pm | |
| Remakes of asian horror movies are always shitty, Buu isn't the only one who's told me this one is great so you should be fine. | |
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
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| Subject: Re: A Tale of Two Sisters Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:00 pm | |
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