Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:18 pm
so emo
Dr. Chocolate Spartan
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:40 pm
It's fine
A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:45 pm
This looks better with every trailer. It's interesting that their getting his parents involved too, should help separate it further from the Raimi films.
Looks like everyone is going to find out Peter is Spider-Man in the very first movie though.
Superbuu3 Raziel
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:45 pm
That film looks more like tv series quality, in terms of effects and acting.
At least the story is one they haven't done on film yet so i'm vaguely interested.
Dr. Chocolate Spartan
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:52 pm
A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
Looks like everyone is going to find out Peter is Spider-Man in the very first movie though.
Yeesh, I hope not I know Captain Stacy, Gwen, and the Lizard will know
A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri May 04, 2012 3:54 pm
I find it hard to believe anyone could take "Captain Stacy" seriously.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat May 05, 2012 5:50 am
This actually looks like it has some good potential. Hopefully the Lizard is done right. Sucks that he never showed up in the original trilogy, despite Dr. Conners being in it.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Tue May 08, 2012 9:17 am
Zero The Hero
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Thu May 17, 2012 4:14 am
A bit more footage from a newer trailer I presume.
A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Thu May 17, 2012 4:22 am
They take his mask off a lot.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:27 am
Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:40 am
Jesus Christ... That is just... wow. Now... that's music. That's how you do a superhero film's score.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:18 pm
I want to love this movie, don't want to enter excited then get bummed down
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:12 pm
Elvis Presley wrote:
I want to love this movie, don't want to enter excited then get bummed down
You should enter excited and then appreciating the film more when you saw it.
Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:54 am
Just got back from seeing it. It was pretty decent, save for the awkward romance moments(but what would you expect from the screenwriter who gave us such epic love scenes like "Ginny tying Harry Potter's shoelaces").
One thing I think the film could have handled better was Conners' character arc. The moment he tests out the serum, he pretty much becomes fool blown cuckoo already. Not too long after his first transformation, he's already working in some secret villainy lair, talking to himself, and making these insane plans like it's another usual day for him. His mind doesn't slowly deteriorate throughout the course of the film and he never has any interesting conversations with anyone post-serum other than in one quick scene.
Other than that little issue, it was okay. Andrew Garfield's an alright Spidey, the action scenes were fun to watch, the score was awesome, and the classic pivotal moments that led up to Peter becoming the good ol' webslinger we all saw before are approached differently enough that they're still interesting.
It's no Avengers, but it'll serve as a great supplement for our TDKR cravings.
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Oh yeah, and the mid-credits scene was meh. It was basically that bit we saw in the trailer where someone asks Conners if he revealed "the truth" about Peter's parents. Then Conners tells him to leave Peter alone and that's it. I'd like to think it was Osborn, but considering he's stated to be dying due to some illness, which is the reason why Oscorp forced Conners to test the Lizard serum on himself in the first place, it'd be odd for him to go out of his way to see him at a mental institute in his condition. Then again, it's not like we know the exact state he is in at the time so I guess it's not that unfathomable if it really was him.
If Osborn does show up in a sequel, no doubt that formula of his that makes him Gobby will be related to his illness. If so, that'll be a unique spin on his origin, even if that's practically retreading on the issues of this film's antagonist(but hey, Raimi's Spidey 2 retreaded as well, sorta). I hope he does come around, though. We need to see that Gwen Stacy moment fully realized. We can't have mere nods(like the MJ Bridge moments in the '90s cartoon and Raimi's first Spidey) cocktease us forever!
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Well, don't bother watching it in 3D. There are very few moments that really stood out enough to justify the extra cost. I enjoyed the film. I did. I even managed not to think too much on Raimi's films during the course of the film, so that's a good sign.
The romance scenes didn't bother me overly, because they were sporadic and quite brief and I thought Emma Stone's Gwen Stacy was much more instantly likable than Kirsten Dunst's Mary-Jane, especially given how the film protrays the curve of the relationship. It did suffer from over familiarity though, the opening half an hour seeming to delight in taking its time to retread old ground rather than getting on with the business of introducing us to the titular Amazing Spider-Man. Yes, that's a given with a new franchise, but this isn't a new franchise no matter how much anyone may protest otherwise.
Also, while there were a couple of funny bits, it was much more po-faced than most iterations of Spider-Man, content to portray Peter as a character suffering from sky-leaping highs to a sullen, brooding brat at his low points. That said, you still find yourself rooting for him, so I guess they got enough of him right, even if I'm not entirely convinced by Garfield; some of the more emotional moments of the script he seemed awkward, and not in the geeky parker-esque way we know and love. Also, Raimi made a point of keeping Spidey's identity secret for the most part, this new Spidey seemed to flash his identity a bit more,
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even to the point it was blatantly obviou that Aunt May knows what Peter's up to at night.
Lizard was a decent enough opponent and much more vicious than expected, and his sheer size and raw strength made a nice contrast to Spidey's speed and agility, though I'd agree with Sora that the script seems to fast-pace him from reluctant human-trial to full blown monster in about ten seconds. Still I don't want to sound too down; I really enjoyed the film. The fights and action scenes were terrific, the visuals were amazing, the performances by and large were good and some of the unresolved plot strands have great potential.
Oh, and
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my take on the mid-credit scene was that it was Connors talking to himself. He had done it a few times prior to that, and the figure he talks to appears and disappears just as suddenly, whilst also bearing a heavily scarred right hand. In essence, it was making a point that, despite the antidote, Lizard is still part of Connors now.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:42 am
SimianWonder wrote:
Also, Raimi made a point of keeping Spidey's identity secret for the most part, this new Spidey seemed to flash his identity a bit more,
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even to the point it was blatantly obviou that Aunt May knows what Peter's up to at night.
I assume that's just to keep up with one of the running themes of the film. How keeping secrets can lead to painful repercussions and such.
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It'll be funny if Aunt May doesn't know who he is in the sequel, though, and that the implications that people got from that last scene were nothing other than that him just patching things up with her and finally getting her damn eggs.
SimianWonder wrote:
though I'd agree with Sora that the script seems to fast-pace him from reluctant human-trial to full blown monster in about ten seconds.
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The least they could have done was put back in this deleted scene. It looks like it would have added more to Conners' arc. Not only that, but it'd resolve the whole Ratha/Evil-Indian-Man sub-plot, as he pretty much disappears in the film after that bridge scene. Hell, in one of the video game's character bios, it claims that he died, and I wouldn't doubt that this deleted scene is where he was supposed to have gotten the axe(although, in the final cut, maybe that bit where he knocks his head in his car after Spidey stopped it from falling was meant to be his new big death scene...? >_>):
Just take out the bits where they'd talk about Peter's parents and the whole "truth" about them(I assume that's one of the reasons why it was cut, as one of the pictures is that "If you want the truth, come and get it" bit from the trailers) and tweak the conflict between Ratha and Conners a little to make it fit.
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Oh, and
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my take on the mid-credit scene was that it was Connors talking to himself. He had done it a few times prior to that, and the figure he talks to appears and disappears just as suddenly, whilst also bearing a heavily scarred right hand. In essence, it was making a point that, despite the antidote, Lizard is still part of Connors now.
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I considered that idea as well, but if I recall correctly, the cartoonishly evil voice sounded a little different from the even more over-the-top voice in his head in those earlier scenes. It also renders the mid-credits scene kind of pointless if it wasn't hyping up a bigger conspiracy and a new threat.
And, if we were to take the sequel game into consideration, Conners never seemed to have any mental issues. He's only trying to help Peter and make up for his mistakes in that. Although, admittedly, it may be a little flimsy to use the game in any discussions involving the film's canon as the film producers could retcon it anytime they want, BUT Sony did go out of their way to work closely with Beenox and to keep continuity and future plans intact sooooo...
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:45 am
I just saw it. It was good. Spider-Man's personality was really well done while he was in the costume. Although it kinda seemed like a sudden transition from omg srs bzness Parker to the cocky funny Spidey.
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I'm curious about the mid-credits scene myself. My initial thought was Norman Osborn. There were enough references to him that he should be important for the sequel. Whoever it was knew Richard Parker well, who worked at Oscorp. Yet another clue pointing to Norman. The darker voice also gives off that impression.
SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:35 pm
Yeah, I enjoyed it too. Don't understand all the negativity about it, it wasn't perfect but was certainly well above average.
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I heard someone else say that as well, but it makes no sense to me. How would Norman Osborn manage to appear in Curt's cell, mumble a few lines then disappear just as quickly? Osborn isn't a teleporter, and I think it's a hell of a stretch that because he was name dropped a couple of times the mysterious figure at the end must be him.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:20 pm
SimianWonder wrote:
Yeah, I enjoyed it too. Don't understand all the negativity about it, it wasn't perfect but was certainly well above average.
People are just being nagative nancies. First they began hating on the Raimi films when this film started looking decent prior to release, then all of a sudden now they're being nostalgia whores and pissing all over ASM. They bitched so much about every little damn thing on gamefaqs that there was even a hate topic about the film's musical score(which is the most deluded hate thread thus far considering mein führer James Horner did an amazing job).
The film's not perfect(Conners' rushed character development, plot resolutions revolving around Peter's past blatantly being cut out of the final film at the last minute, etc.), but the reception this film is getting is beyond screwed up.
Also, I don't care how overly convenient and corny they were, The Amazing Crane Operators were hilariously awesome.
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I heard someone else say that as well, but it makes no sense to me. How would Norman Osborn manage to appear in Curt's cell, mumble a few lines then disappear just as quickly? Osborn isn't a teleporter, and I think it's a hell of a stretch that because he was name dropped a couple of times the mysterious figure at the end must be him.
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I've just read that it's been confirmed that it's neither Osborn nor Conners talking to himself. It's someone who works at Oscorp, though. Doubtful it's any of the cameos from the game, of course(like Morbius, whose transformation and fight will probably be done in the sequel's tie-in game and not the film itself).
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:01 pm
Speaking of the hate and nostalgia whores, almost all people at Rotten Tomato stating they don't like it stated "the same thing all over" and stuff like "cliched all superhero movies" blah blah Then we'll probably see them go TDKR and say "OMG, explosions are awesome, Bane almost entirely destroyed Gotham" like this didn't happen a million time already
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:22 pm
Anyone who says "cliche all superhero movies" is an idiot. ASM felt much more grounded and realistic than the likes of Avengers, the two of them offering entirely different takes on how to do superhero films.
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:59 am
I think this is the best Peter Parker movie, they did a fine job with Peter, surpasses what Raimi and co did by miles, he's witty and charming, got bullied, but at least not the silly -though fun- everybody hates him from the first movie, and he's not as much of a dork, most of my laughs on the previous trilogy stem from Peter being a dork
As an action movie, it's better than the first movie, action scenes are greater than the first Spider-Man movie, mostly due to CGI of the movie and how stiff Spider-Man moves compared to later installments. Spider-Man 2 & 3 has better action scenes than this movie, more satisfying to watch
Movie is good, problem is I saw a pretty chopped down version, and May seems to be just there, nothing much to her. I will be pleased to see the full thing without cuts and stuff, then it might be the best of the films, right now I think it doesn't stand on higher grounds than they do outside of Peter, the love interest, and maybe the villain portrayal
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Subject: Re: The Amazing Spider-Man Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:38 am
I saw it last weekend. i enjoyed it. prefer it over the Raimi movies even, and I'm a Raimi fan.
but I never really liked Toby so maybe that's why..
It seemed obvious to me that Connors was talking to himself in the cell. At first I thought it would be Osborn, but then he clearly vanished into thin air so it must have justt been in Connors mind. The scene was just there to set up that Peter's father had other important secrets.
Saw this today. I liked it. Not quite as good as Spider-Man 1 but at least as good as Spider-Man 2.