What did you think of kingdom hearts 2?

Murloc wrote:

I absolutely LOVED the 1000 heartless fight. Personally, (despite the shit story) I thought it was an awesome game.

This and I agree with Buu, Lion king was awesome

Oh, when you said Terra, I thought you meant Terra from FF6... This guy looks like a knock off of Zak.

Kairi WAS hot. I'd do her in a heartbeat.

Lol, I read that as "I'd do her heartbeat."

Donovan wrote:

Oh, when you said Terra, I thought you meant Terra from FF6... This guy looks like a knock off of Zak.

TEEEEECHNICALLY, Terra was planned and stuff BEFORE they did Zack's new design. KH2 came out near the end of 2005 and Terra, even though was still kept secret in the armor back then, obviously was designed and planned way back beforehand. Meanwhile, Zack's highly detailed design came in FF7AC which even though had assloads of pics and such in the previous year, I don't remember much Zack ones.

Either way, Terra was most likely designed first.

Though, Zack did come out first. but that was back when he was a total fugly 3D model and in the photo......t-the photo.....with the well designed Zack and........well does anyone care!? SHUT UP! >_> <_< >_>

Trigger Walnut wrote:

Terra's a man. He just has a generally female name. Here's pix of face:

Spoiler:

I assumed you meant Terra from FF6...

Anyhoo, KH1 was irrelevant, but fun because it had Disney characters and subplots. It was basically a Disney movie with nice little morals. A good, simple game.

KH2 tried this convoluted, overreaching philosophical agenda crap that turned into "wut?" and had me MORE confused after KH1.

Wait, what? KH1 was the game that didn't explain much. KH2 covered pretty everything from KH1's mysteries and made some new ones for sequels cuz they already knew it's going to get one.

KH 2 is just full of plotholes and things they quite frankly pulled out their ass, like "Ansem isn't evil because the main antagonist in KH 1 was teh imposter!". It's a fun little game but I honestly preferred KH 1 over 2. While the gameplay seems smoother in KH 2 it quickly degenerated into button mashing and pressing the triangle button at the correct time. KH 1 at least had the player use a bit more strategy in the fights.

As for the plot, KH 1 was simple and yet left loose ends for a sequel to tie up. KH 2 decided to make it darker and more confusing which you have to admit, is admirable. But they just messed it up. The plot in the beginning was interesting enough, even if Roxas' gameplay did bore the pants off you. After you got control of Sora though the gameplay got better at the expense of the plot which never really picked up until late on and even then it seemed the revelations were, for the lack of a better word: half assed.

Wow. This board is full of KH haters.

Walnut, will you marry me?

It's not that I hate the games. I actually really liked them, I just think they are incredibly overrated for what they are. Simple, mindless fun combining Disney with Final Fantasy. It shouldn't have to delve into all the convoluted crap and it shouldn't have to dumb down the gameplay.

But the combat has plenty depth. Play on hard mode.

And the story's fine. Maybe you just didn't understand it.

I never hated the games, I enjoyed them. Combining the most popular RPG series with the best children's movies was a genius idea.

It is just that the stores are next to crap.

KH1 pretty much started you off (Ansem, beat him, new evil, Riku and Mickey enter mystery door).

Then KH2 adds in this really inane thing called Nobodies. While I like Roxas (<3 Jesse McCartney), I just......didn't get why Nobodies were added.

I was confused from the get-go.

Flames admits she didn't get the story.

It was a good story, just complicated. I had to re-beat KH1 so my memory was refreshed before I knew what all was going on.

Godot wrote:

Flames admits she didn't get the story.

It was a good story, just complicated. I had to re-beat KH1 so my memory was refreshed before I knew what all was going on.

Overly complicated =/= good. It means its convoluted and unnecessarily confusing.

Yeah...?

Once you get past that, it was interesting. I've seen overcomplicated stories that ultimately aren't any good. Xenosaga anybody?

KH2 had a good story. It just takes a while to figure out.

Godot wrote:

But the combat has plenty depth. Play on hard mode.

And the story's fine. Maybe you just didn't understand it.

No the combat has no depth at all in KH 2. It was slash, slash, slash, drive mode, slash, press triangle, WHOAMG I took off most of the bosses health!11!

Playing on Proud mode just meant it took a bit longer for the enemy to get killed. KH 1 had MUCH more depth with regards to battles because you couldn't just go slashing in, you needed to use the correct spells and work with the environment. Not just mash X and then triangle which is what KH 2 degenerated into.

The plot was TERRIBLE and it's a low blow that you think I don't understand it. The plot makes no sense precisely because when you compare it to KH 1 or hell, even CoM, it leaves behind huge plotholes. If the "Ansem" of KH 1 was an imposter, why the hell didn't King Mickey pick up on it, considering he met the real Ansem? Let's not forget how stupid Sora's attitude was in the game which consisted of "ALL NOBODIES ARE EVUL AND WANT POWER!!", despite the fact he doesn't even TRY to understand Organization XIII's motives and despite what Axel, Roxas and Namine did for Sora.

Godot wrote:

Once you get past that, it was interesting. I've seen overcomplicated stories that ultimately aren't any good. Xenosaga anybody?

KH2 had a good story. It just takes a while to figure out.

You're contradicitng yourself there.

Xenosaga suffered the same fate as Xenogears, they were rushed and ended up half-assing the rest of the series, only Xenogears was executed perfectly while.....Xenosaga failed.

Still, Jin goes out like a fucking champ.

Bah.

You know what they call this?

Irreconcilable differences. I want a divorce.

Godot wrote:

Bah.

You know what they call this?

Irreconcilable differences. I want a divorce.

Did you sign a prenupt?

Xenosaga's problem was that the whole of Episode I and half of Episode II were filler. I mean when you try to sum up Xenosaga, it's a pretty simple story. You don't need to span 3 games, a cellphone game, a anime, a DS adaption of Episode I and II and lord knows what else, just to tell the story.

Xenogears was rushed yes but it was just more satisfying than Xenosaga. I felt more for Fei and Elly far more than I did for Shion and Jr.

Rebellious Membrane wrote:

Xenosaga's problem was that the whole of Episode I and half of Episode II were filler. I mean when you try to sum up Xenosaga, it's a pretty simple story. You don't need to span 3 games, a cellphone game, a anime, a DS adaption of Episode I and II and lord knows what else, just to tell the story.

Xenogears was rushed yes but it was just more satisfying than Xenosaga. I felt more for Fei and Elly far more than I did for Shion and Jr.

I'd equate Fei and Elly to Shion and chaos, really. >_>

But I have not yet finished Nortune, so.....

Jr. was the only interesting character in Xenosaga.

chaos plays no real important role in any of the Xenosaga games. Neither does KOS-MOS really. They ARE arguably the most important characters in the series but they don't really have an important role at all until the last hour or so of Xenosaga Episode III.

I say Jr. because Shion and Jr. are really the main characters of Xenosaga. Episode I was Shion's story, Episode II was Jr.'s story and Episode III was the conclusion.

Shion was pretty interesting. Going berserk sort of helps, albeit being universally hated. Jr. is an amalgamation of Bart's personality and Billy's weapon.

Episode 1 - mediocre story, amusing battle system

Episode 2 - I didn't really like the fights as much. The story was by far the best, IMO. Jr.'s character development and backstory were awesome.

Episode 3 - Best battles, IMO. Didn't like the story at all, but I honestly had no idea what was going on. I had to ask my girlfriend who Mary Magdelene was >.>