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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:05 pm | |
| So is Gordon-Levitt confirmed to be Azrael yet? | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:31 am | |
| My friends, I am off to see TDKR. I shall bring tidings of how it was when I return. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 am | |
| Well, that was pretty, pretty, pretty good, although I wish the ending was a bit stronger. Hard to gauge whether it's better than TDK or not yet, though. It's definitely bigger in scope and action, that's for sure. - Spoiler:
And there was a severe lack of Michael Caine, dang it. Alfred leaves early in the film after having a falling out with Bruce due to him wanting to become Batman again. It was a nice, emotional, and well-acted scene, but I missed good ol' Alfie. At least he pops up at the end again.
Oh yeah, and Crane gets another cameo. Yay for those who wanted him to pop up again for shits n' giggles.
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Neo CP9 Agent
Posts : 6602 Joined : 2009-11-17 Age : 30 Location : Australia
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:48 am | |
| Does Batman die or retire? Is JGL Azrael/Robin? | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:22 am | |
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Bruce lives and retires and Blake becomes the new Batman.
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:16 am | |
| Gotta say, I enjoyed this movie a lot and more than DK. Although, I'm gonna say DK was overall the better film. Anyways, I loved JGL and Anne Hathway, their respective characters were great and so were the portrayals. The ending I can't make my mind up about because it is pretty jarring except for - Spoiler:
JGL becoming the next Batman, fuck yes.
Bane is a fantastic villain although he sounded really funny and it sort of took the seriousness away during a few scenes. It's especially apparent near the beginning of the film when he's being very affable and almost seems like he's very self-aware of the idea he's a villain from a comic book. However there was a really dumb plot twist near the end with - Spoiler:
Tate being Talia and her being the mastermind. I mean, the comic nerd in me was hoping that Bane wasn't actually Ra's' son, but god dammit they didn't even have that much allusion to Talia's involvement or that Tate was Talia. She also has this bizarre thing with her dad where she couldn't forgive him, but does his work. It's been stated already that this kind of thing does happen, but it doesn't really help the believability. It also kind of devalues Bane as a villain.
Overall though, it was a great experience and watching it with my mother, who reacted to everything pretty hilariously, was fun too. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 am | |
| - Baal wrote:
- Bane is a fantastic villain although he sounded really funny and it sort of took the seriousness away during a few scenes. It's especially apparent near the beginning of the film when he's being very affable and almost seems like he's very self-aware of the idea he's a villain from a comic book.
Mmmyes. Although, I wouldn't say I was bothered by it. Instead of being annoying, that hamminess in the way he talks actually kind of adds to his character. I get the feeling that without it, he wouldn't have been as entertaining or memorable. | |
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Zero The Hero
Posts : 4722 Joined : 2008-08-07 Age : 34 Location : McNeil Village
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:34 am | |
| Just saw this in IMAX. Loved the hell out of it. - Baal wrote:
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Tate being Talia and her being the mastermind. I mean, the comic nerd in me was hoping that Bane wasn't actually Ra's' son, but god dammit they didn't even have that much allusion to Talia's involvement or that Tate was Talia. She also has this bizarre thing with her dad where she couldn't forgive him, but does his work. It's been stated already that this kind of thing does happen, but it doesn't really help the believability. It also kind of devalues Bane as a villain.
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I had suspected that she might be Talia because she slept with Bruce and had dat accent.
I agree that she devalued Bane as a villain though when revealed as the mastermind.
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
Posts : 22124 Joined : 2008-08-01
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:57 pm | |
| - Casa Stark wrote:
- they're always so grating and out of place. it's like:
something something PURRFECT
something something CAT BURGLAR
something something GOOD THING I ALWAYS LAND ON MY FEET Just saw the film and this never happened. I don't think she was ever even called Catwoman. It was a good film, especially the ending, but the thing that made The Dark Knight so great was Ledger and Eckhart's performances. This film doesn't really have anything like that. Tom Hardy is certainly capable of it, but he was behind that mask the whole time and his voice was disguised as well. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:14 pm | |
| - A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
- Just saw the film and this never happened. I don't think she was ever even called Catwoman.
There was one instance where she said "Cat got your tongue?", but other than that, there's nothing else I can recall. | |
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
Posts : 22124 Joined : 2008-08-01
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:07 pm | |
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The Batman statue was a bit much though.
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:12 pm | |
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Considering the guy saved the city of Gotham from a dictator and sacrificed himself to destroy a bomb, I don't think it was really much at all.
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A_Nonny_Moose Live Free or Don't
Posts : 22124 Joined : 2008-08-01
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:14 pm | |
| I don't mean he didn't deserve it, just as an image on the screen it was a bit too much to take. | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:15 pm | |
| Well I can understand that, it was pretty polarizing. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:18 pm | |
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And on the third day, he rose again.
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Kaede Piss scared of wasps
Posts : 5286 Joined : 2008-08-30 Age : 34 Location : Between a fårikål and a lapskaus
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:45 pm | |
| Watched the first two this evening in preparation. Nervous. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:16 pm | |
| I saw TDK over the weekend. Good film, but there's something cold and clinical in it that stops me from loving it. It's like... all the ingredients are there, but there's still something missing.
And yes, I realise I'm probably alone there. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:36 am | |
| No, you're not alone. The film's pretty enjoyable, but admittedly, it is as little more disjointed than the previous two installments when looking back at it. As it was the last film in this trilogy, it feels like they decided to make it a crazy, fun spectacle that caters to our dumb, emotional, irrational side for a change. It's still well-written for the most part, but it does have its share of clunkiness. | |
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Syntek Deck Hand
Posts : 91 Joined : 2012-06-06 Age : 44 Location : Pittsburgh, PA USA
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:57 pm | |
| I really enjoyed it. Much different tone than the previous two and it's not a cerebral as the last one for sure, but it's very good. IMAX was definitely the way to see it if you get the opportunity to do so.
I loved the cameo from the Cillian Murphy reprising the Scarecrow.(Should have his own film)
I just don’t think I can really complain about the film much at all.
However, they showed some of the Steelers during the opening of the stadium scene, and living in Pittsburgh of course most of the crowd cheered like the rednecks they are. That’s still just a little sick and disappointing to me that people will cheer for a rapist because he can throw a ball.
Apparently Rape is bad unless it interferes with Football.
At any rate this made me want to go home and play Arkham city for a 4th time. And the way I see it as long as a comic book based movie is even half decent story wise, looks good, and the super heroes costume doesn’t have nipples, it’s fine by me.
I’ll watch this at least a few more times.
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:02 am | |
| well, this was a rather dull movie. the best part of it was the ending and even that was a ruined one.. - Spoiler:
seriously, as soon as I saw the scene where Fox discovers the autopilot actually did work, I was like WHAT THE FUCK, why do they pull this fucking crap where he ends up being alive still? right then when I saw that scene, I just knew he was gonna show up in the ending somewhere, and then he did. terrible, they should've just let him die, I'm sick of these happy endings where everything turns out to be ok after all. it would've been so much better if they just let him die, or give hints of him possibly being alive still, but not actually showing it. it should've been an open ending, or an ending where he dies, not this BS.
not to mention a lot of the movie was very predictable. that scene where Gordon has to find the truck with the bomb, and the first truck he gets (the tagged one) is the wrong one? I immediately linked it to the scene where Tate helped him tag the truck, and I just knew she was gonna end up being the bad guy.. and then she did. it's even worse that I was already thinking about her not being good somewhere near the beginning/middle of the movie..
and I don't remember at which point in the movie I said it, but somewhere along the movie I told my friend: watch this guy end up being Robin, and then that happened again too...
not that it was really bad, i just thought it was very dull at times, and too predicatble imo. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sat Jul 28, 2012 4:08 am | |
| - Eevil-Psycho wrote:
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watch this guy end up being Robin, and then that happened again too...
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Actually he becomes the next Batman. The "Robin" thing was just his real name and a nod to character.
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Eevil-Psycho Captain Spaulding
Posts : 3288 Joined : 2011-01-28 Age : 39 Location : Ravels, Belgium
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:58 am | |
| well ok then.. but still.. | |
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SimianWonder Simian D. Wonder
Posts : 6439 Joined : 2008-10-12 Age : 44 Location : Old People's home
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:26 am | |
| - Sora wrote:
- No, you're not alone. The film's pretty enjoyable, but admittedly, it is as little more disjointed than the previous two installments when looking back at it. As it was the last film in this trilogy, it feels like they decided to make it a crazy, fun spectacle that caters to our dumb, emotional, irrational side for a change. It's still well-written for the most part, but it does have its share of clunkiness.
My apologies, but it seems I wasn't clear enough. When I said TDK, I meant The Dark Knight, not Rises. For what it's worth, I saw Rises yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it. Tom Hardy's Bane was a monster, albeit slightly less scary than Ledger's Joker, and Hathaway's Selina Kyle just goes to show that putting any woman in a skin tight catsuit will increase their sex appeal ten fold. Seriously, I've never really thought she was anything special but... damn. That cat suit. The ending seems to have been a bit marmite too, but I thought it was just about perfect, my only real gripe with the whole film being - Spoiler:
Bane being killed with a shot from a cannon. I wanted Batman to beat him into submission once and for all.
And yes, I thought it was more entertaining than The Dark Knight, which still leaves me a little cold. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:35 am | |
| - SimianWonder wrote:
- Sora wrote:
- No, you're not alone. The film's pretty enjoyable, but admittedly, it is as little more disjointed than the previous two installments when looking back at it. As it was the last film in this trilogy, it feels like they decided to make it a crazy, fun spectacle that caters to our dumb, emotional, irrational side for a change. It's still well-written for the most part, but it does have its share of clunkiness.
My apologies, but it seems I wasn't clear enough. When I said TDK, I meant The Dark Knight, not Rises. Hahahaha, I see. I thought that was just a typo and you were talking about this film. Derp. | |
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Casa RULES OF NATURE
Posts : 1949 Joined : 2012-03-07
| Subject: Re: "The Dark Knight Rises"...? Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:41 am | |
| So I finally got around to watching this. Overall, I'd say I'm fairly underwhelmed. It tried to do too much and didn't really succeed at anything - someone else said that it had all the elements that would make a great movie but they never seemed to click together and I'd agree quite readily with that. Gordon felt under utilized. JGL was okay, probably should have been introduced in an earlier movie. Bane was great but the twist at the end kind of undermines him and I guess I'll have to continue waiting for the day an adaption does Bane right. I liked Anne Hathaway but her relationship with Batman felt kind of forced (and they couldn't resist a cat pun, I fucking knew it). I also think they made a mistake by having an eight year time skip, it just made everything feel alien again since we were being introduced to all these characters simultaneously and expected to just accept all these concepts like the neutron bomb, the Dent Act and Batman's retirement. For the first 30 minutes or so I just kept thinking that it felt wrong somehow, like it didn't feel like a natural continuation to TDK. - Spoiler:
I'm actually ashamed of myself for not seeing Talia coming; I genuinely thought Bane was Ra's son. I knew Miranda was going to be evil from the get go - seriously, who didn't see that coming? But I just never connected the two dots.
I'm also saddened that Batman didn't get to beat down Bane. Sure he subdued him briefly, but I wanted him to pound his ass into the ground like he did the Mutant Leader in The Dark Knight Returns, since the movie took a lot of pointers from that story too.
Batman statue was kind of pushing it.
Something about Batman himself also bugged me but I can't put my finger on what. Actually I think I can: it didn't feel like he was Batman. It felt like he was Bruce Wayne. You could argue that that was intentional - to show how disassociated he's become from the symbol in the eight years - but to me at least I'm so used to the interpretation that Batman is Batman all the time and Bruce Wayne is the mask that this version of him feels so inherently wrong. Also, I'm not the only one who thought the fight choreography for the brawls were kind of shit right? They felt like rehearsals, with each mook waiting for his turn to get beaten up. Batman/Bane fights were decent at least. The ending was spectacular though, for that reason alone I'm happy with the movie. I loved how they interpreted the Lazarus Pit too. | |
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