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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:56 pm | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:33 am | |
| WAN PISS ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE | |
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DeeCee Skypiea Priest
Posts : 1093 Joined : 2008-11-10 Age : 34 Location : Grand Line...of Canada
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DeeCee Skypiea Priest
Posts : 1093 Joined : 2008-11-10 Age : 34 Location : Grand Line...of Canada
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:05 am | |
| - Kaio wrote:
- Two years it is.
what is? | |
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Mewmaster You're lying Dammit!
Posts : 7716 Joined : 2008-08-04 Location : ????
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:22 am | |
| Placing all bets here. Who wants to bet right here and now that Crocodile will have another army built up by the time the time skip is all said and done? | |
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Skip Australianus
Posts : 10290 Joined : 2009-07-02 Age : 32 Location : Just Under Down Under
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:51 am | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
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DeeCee Skypiea Priest
Posts : 1093 Joined : 2008-11-10 Age : 34 Location : Grand Line...of Canada
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:56 pm | |
| eeek. so what's he teaching him. ANd hey I might just pick up the manga during this time. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:34 pm | |
| Ambition. It was fully explained what it exactly is this chapter. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:38 pm | |
| I thought it would be obvious its something to do with Haki, or something not yet seen in the anime yet. | |
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DeeCee Skypiea Priest
Posts : 1093 Joined : 2008-11-10 Age : 34 Location : Grand Line...of Canada
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:48 pm | |
| - Superbuu3 wrote:
- I thought it would be obvious its something to do with Haki, or something not yet seen in the anime yet.
Well yeah, I imagined Haki, just needed some clarification. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm | |
| The chapter also pretty much nullifies anything that justifies Haki not being translated.
It's Ambition. The more Ambition you have, the bigger your potential is. | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:27 pm | |
| I SWEAR TO GOD ODA, IF PERONA DOES NOT JOIN THE GROUP! | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:30 pm | |
| Perona is a terrible character, possibly the worst in the entire series. | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:49 pm | |
| No, you just hate her laugh from the anime. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:56 pm | |
| She's an awful lolita fanservice character with a stupid gimmick, zero personality and not dreams and ambition.
Moria deserves better. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:57 pm | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:00 pm | |
| - Kaio wrote:
- She's an awful lolita fanservice character with a stupid gimmick, zero personality and not dreams and ambition.
Moria deserves better. Don't care about the lolita thing, I loved the ghosts those were great, and it's not like most of the other henchmen were revealed to have these things either, hell no one knew a damn thing about Robin until she joined the crew. | |
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Kaede Piss scared of wasps
Posts : 5286 Joined : 2008-08-30 Age : 34 Location : Between a fårikål and a lapskaus
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| Why would Perona join the group? She's not interesting enough. | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:04 pm | |
| Even before Robin joined we knew she was dangerous, blew up battleships as an 8 year old and a bounty rivalling Croc.
We know that Perona... loves teddy bears. Awesome. Main character material right there. | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:13 pm | |
| - Kaio wrote:
- Even before Robin joined we knew she was dangerous, blew up battleships as an 8 year old and a bounty rivalling Croc.
We know that Perona... loves teddy bears. Awesome. Main character material right there. Now, see here's the problem with that. Everyone that Luffy has come up against has been dangerous, this does not immediately make Robin special, nor does the blowing battleships up or bounty do so either, Arlong's own men sunk a damn ship, what does that make them immediately interesting characters because we know they're dangerous? Do you not have enough faith in Oda to know he could make Perona work despite the fact you swear up and down that he's fantastic? - Kaede wrote:
- Why would Perona join the group? She's not interesting enough.
This is how every girl who has joined the Straw Hats started off. Nami didn't do anything except steal shit, Robin did next to nothing except blow up a ship, something we've seen more than enough before Whiskey Peak. Those two didn't get any actual development or become interesting until their specific character arcs. | |
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Superbuu3 Raziel
Posts : 41040 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 2023 Location : Nosgoth
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:52 pm | |
| Did robin even sink those ships? I thought that was all made up. | |
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Talking Sock Big Daddy Boss
Posts : 9250 Joined : 2008-08-11 Age : 32 Location : Down Under
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:37 am | |
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Kaio Internet Celebrity
Posts : 13827 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 33
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:07 pm | |
| - Baal wrote:
- Kaio wrote:
- Even before Robin joined we knew she was dangerous, blew up battleships as an 8 year old and a bounty rivalling Croc.
We know that Perona... loves teddy bears. Awesome. Main character material right there. Now, see here's the problem with that. Everyone that Luffy has come up against has been dangerous, this does not immediately make Robin special, nor does the blowing battleships up or bounty do so either, Arlong's own men sunk a damn ship, what does that make them immediately interesting characters because we know they're dangerous? The difference is that Arlong's men were already proven to be monsters and destroying the ship was only further proof of that. Robin was introduced as a woman who did jack shit, but still had a bounty that rivalled Crocodile's. Then we learn that she blew up 5 battleships as a little kid. It's a completely different situation, because Oda purposely created some mystery around her past, while there wasn't any with the fishmen. - Quote :
- Do you not have enough faith in Oda to know he could make Perona work despite the fact you swear up and down that he's fantastic?
Perona has been a terrible character since her introduction 150 chapters ago, so no. - Kaede wrote:
- Why would Perona join the group? She's not interesting enough.
[qupte]This is how every girl who has joined the Straw Hats started off. Nami didn't do anything except steal shit, Robin did next to nothing except blow up a ship, something we've seen more than enough before Whiskey Peak.[/quote] Two chapters after her introduction Nami mentioned she hated pirates because a loved one was killed by them and that she was going to collect 100 million Berries to buy a village. Robin, I already talked about. What has Perona done during Thriller Bark? Fawn over Kumacy, fawn over Moria, cry like a little girl, get defeated by Usopp, try to steal Moria's gold, get paw'd by Moria. There is NOTHING that suggests there's something behind this obvious fanservice character. The only reason she showed up again is to have comedic scenes with Zoro, who is her complete opposite in terms of personality. - Quote :
- Those two didn't get any actual development or become interesting until their specific character arcs.
Bullshit. | |
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Baal Shut Up and Jam
Posts : 26828 Joined : 2008-07-31 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: OP is going on a break for a month Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:53 pm | |
| - Quote :
- It's a completely different situation, because Oda purposely created some mystery around her past, while there wasn't any with the fishmen.
True. - Quote :
- Perona has been a terrible character since her introduction 150 chapters ago, so no.
Henchman aren't going to be very compelling at the start, especially when they're the henchman of someone like Moria. The closest thing any of his henchman had to a legitimate background is Ryuuma and that's because of another story Oda did. Hell, Hachi had his own little arc where he helped other people when he was just some henchman of Arlong and later showed up to be an ally of the Staw Hats. Anything can happen in this series, especially when you look at the main cast. - Quote :
- Two chapters after her introduction Nami mentioned she hated pirates because a loved one was killed by them and that she was going to collect 100 million Berries to buy a village. Robin, I already talked about.
First of all, that buying a village thing didn't come into context until later, any person woul'dve just thought Nami was being some eccentric thief who would just throw their money away. You are not honestly going to tell me you dwelled on that, Kai. Robin is understandable with destroying five ships as a child, Nami was introduced as a woman who hated pirates and obsessed over money, one being a common trait shared with a lot of people in this series, the other being something even Buggy obsessed over and this certainly didn't add to his character. - Quote :
- Bullshit.
Nami didn't have any actual development until Arlong Park where she started trusting Luffy and Co. and considered them actual friends and come Enies Lobby, Robin does the same thing. Before both respective parts, Nami was just some thief concerned with her treasure and Robin was a stoic woman who pretty much forced herself into the group, both showed a bit more than that during their fights but those were very small parts. | |
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