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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 3:53 am

I still think Luc was the best antagonist. >_< Luca just had really awesome moments.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 3:55 am

Oh yeah Luc was the best. It's just... Luca's best moments seemed to be fairly near the beginning of the game. I just felt he toned down quite a bit once the protagonist actually got his castle.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:00 am

luc is the best antagonist
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:06 am

Suikoden's V best antagonist was Sialeeds. One of my favorites in the entire series. Marscal and his son may have been meh, but Sialeeds was amazing.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:09 am

i never owned 5 and i can't find it though i have played it so my memories are foggy on that one
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:11 am

You knew something was up when Sialeeds was playable yet didn't appear in the Stars of Destiny tablet.

Honestly though, while she was a more complex antagonist than the Godwins, I thought her betrayal was... half assed. All because she didn't have faith in the prince, even though she defected around the time where the prince was actually WINNING? It just didn't make a whole lot of sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:24 am

Rebellious Membrane wrote:
You knew something was up when Sialeeds was playable yet didn't appear in the Stars of Destiny tablet.

Honestly though, while she was a more complex antagonist than the Godwins, I thought her betrayal was... half assed. All because she didn't have faith in the prince, even though she defected around the time where the prince was actually WINNING? It just didn't make a whole lot of sense.

IIRC, She defected because she didn't trust Lym and the prince to have the balls to completely rid themselves of the senate, so she took matters into her own hands by exposing the other major noble family (they live in Rainwall) and allying herself with the Godwins and working as a triple agent.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:27 am

She was basically a female Revolver Ocelot (lolMGS).

Still kinda silly why she defected. I mean at that point the Prince had already seen how corrupt the senate were. She should have just finished the Godwin problem and then focused on the senate afterwards.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:33 am

I think it is also a matter of being so racked with guilt over Arshtat's death. She doesn't feel as if she can mother the children, she can only play that zany aunt you love. She had nothing else to live for.

She was basically depressed and found a way to help the prince and achieve her goal.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:38 am

Mmm still..

She could have at least talked to someone about it. But no arguments from me though Sialeed's was awesome. I just thought her reason for defecting was stupid.

Also Georg is friggen overpowered in Suikoden V.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:41 am

Georg was raped with the proverbial awesome bat. A giant step-up from Suikoden 2.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:45 am

No he was still pretty awesome in Suikoden II. Only because sometimes there is a glitch where he is level 99 when you first recruit him xD

But yeah wow. You expected Georg to be temporary or something and you'd only get him back near the end and that is exactly what happened. However you also think he would be crap once you get him back... but nope. Still overpowered.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:46 am

All of the Queen's Knights were awesome, except Kyle.

He kinds of fades, maybe Galleon too.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:53 am

I can't even remember my final party in each of the Suikoden games, it's been that long since I've played them.

Kyle was... kinda useless to start off with and Galleon just joins far too late to be of any real use.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 4:56 am

Richard (PARRY MASTER)
Viki
Miakis (CRAZY KNIFE GIRL)
Prince
Zerase (Or Bernadette, I forget)

I forget my six member, I think it was a Fayleen?
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:00 am

I had Richard, Viki, Zerase, Prince, Miakis and Lyon (kinda had to take her) for my final party. Almost the same as yours xD

For Suikoden III I had Hugo, Fubar, Geddoe, Nel, Juan and... Viki I think...

I can't remember my final party in the other Suikoden games at all though.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:03 am

Ahh, Lyon.

Hated her, that's why I forgot her.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:07 am

Yeah I don't think many liked Lyon. Still I'm pretty sure you had to take her for the last battle.

Geddoe never left my party in Suikoden III if I could help it. His True Lightning Rune was just THAT damn powerful.

Speaking of which, when exactly is Suikoden VI gonna be announced? Come on Konami, make it happen.


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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:17 am

She's necessary what with the Twilight Rune.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:20 am

Yeah. A rune you get so late into the game it isn't even funny.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:20 am

And better suited on Sialeeds, to be honest.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:24 am

Yep...

If it was an option, I would have taken Sialeeds over Lyon for the final battle.
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:27 am

Yeah.

Prince x Lym. xD
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PostSubject: Re: Suikoden   Suikoden - Page 2 Icon_minitimeTue Aug 19, 2008 5:33 am

I completely forgot how old Lym is meant to be in Suikoden V. I'm SURE that scene was innocent though... although that option early on in the game to "peek".... hmmm. xD
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You spoony prince!
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