Planet of the Apes (new one)

Just watched this. I didn't get the ending. Was it Earth all along?

I can't remember it that well. Didn't Tim Roth attack Wahlberg's monkey buudy who everyone else thought was a God or something weird like that?

That was near the end. At the very end he leaves the ape planet and arrives back on Earth, but it's full of apes too. He lands at the Lincoln Memorial, only instead of Lincoln it's Thade (the Tim Roth character).

I don't remember that at all. Oh well.

i've only seen one planet of the apes film

and that was the final one of the originals which explained the origin of the planet of the apes
ad yes earth = planet of the apes

The original one of the originals explained that it was Earth didn't it?

It doesn't seem possible in the new one though. He's part of some space crew, and there are some apes on his ship that they're teaching or experimenting on or something. They're exploring space or some shit, I can't remember. Anyway, he goes down to some planet, but goes through some weird storm which sends him into the future.

His crew land on the planet to look for him, but they don't go through the storm, so they land in the present, which is how the planet becomes populated with humans and apes in the first place.

Then at the end he leaves the planet and goes back to Earth, but Earth is now populated by apes too, and somehow there's a statue of General Thade there.

well the whole thing was meant to be starated off by the fact
very far in the future apes try to escape PoA when it explodes or something they hit the wormhole get sent back to earth present and due to some shit basically intelligent apes are born i'll explain more if you care

keeping that film in mind
this film would still work

But none of that is even slightly implied in the new film. It's all on some other planet somewhere, and then at the end, Earth has apes on it too. The exact same apes apparently.

A_Nonny_Moose wrote:

But none of that is even slightly implied in the new film. It's all on some other planet somewhere, and then at the end, Earth has apes on it too. The exact same apes apparently.

well basically the reason this happens is they travel back in time get a kid
and this kid is switched with a ape in the zoo so that he isn't killed
the humans fear the apes and kill the intelligent ones
the apes eventually emerge as intelligent they use them as slaves and integrated into society
the apes rebel and win and then PoA is born

not quite sure why technology is lost though

You're still talking about the old films. The ape planet in the newer film is created when a space ship with humans and apes on it lands on some planet looking for one of their crew, who also landed on that planet but in the future. The apes just go nuts and escape and start killing the humans.

That planet can't be Earth. But then he goes back to Earth at the end it looks like it was supposed to be Earth all along, which makes no sense.

A_Nonny_Moose wrote:

You're still talking about the old films. The ape planet in the newer film is created when a space ship with humans and apes on it lands on some planet looking for one of their crew, who also landed on that planet but in the future. The apes just go nuts and escape and start killing the humans.

That planet can't be Earth. But then he goes back to Earth at the end it looks like it was supposed to be Earth all along, which makes no sense.

keeping in mind the original film i'm talking about
the intelligent apes were already present on earth before the space exploration mission

hence there would be apes on the ship consider it a retcon because apes should have been on the ship in the original PoA movie
by going in the future he missed the incident where there was a revolution which resulted in apes taking over

I think that should explain things if you think about it

But when he leaves the planet of the apes he goes back through the storm thing and back to the past. And it still doesn't explain why there's a statue of a character from the planet of the apes on Earth.

A_Nonny_Moose wrote:

But when he leaves the planet of the apes he goes back through the storm thing and back to the past. And it still doesn't explain why there's a statue of a character from the planet of the apes on Earth.

that does seem kinda odd
does he definitely come back to earth at the same time
only explanation that makes sense for that is he appeared back on earth sometime after his journey into space

Rewatched it yesterday. The end makes no sense at all. I get that the worm hole threw Wahlberg, Pericles and CaLiMa into the future, but returning to earth to find Thade's statue and a Police dept of apes is just BS, like Burton though it'd be funny to leave us on something that leaves us confused. It's never alluded to at any point in the film that Apes went the other way through the storm as well, least of all Thade, yet the ending seems to suggest that they must have.

Even without the ending, it wasn't a great film, was it?

I really think they were planning on remaking the whole series by the sounds of things

I almost feel that the ending was done in that nature so that ppl who they thought wouldn't get it, would get it was actually earth

either way sounds awful

Yeah, I suspect it was meant as a setup to a sequel.

Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius. Dr. Zaius, Dr. Zaius. OOOOOOOOH Dr. Zaius.

Aaaah, when The Simpsons was still funny.

No, it wasn't that good of a film. And the implied love triangle between Whalberg, that blonde chick, and the ape woman was just freaky.

I was also puzzled as to how a small group of chimpanzees managed to turn into a large population containing what are clearly chimps, gorillas, and orangutans. Also not sure why they evolved into big apes rather than, you know, HUMANS.

A_Nonny_Moose wrote:

I was also puzzled as to how a small group of chimpanzees managed to turn into a large population containing what are clearly chimps, gorillas, and orangutans. Also not sure why they evolved into big apes rather than, you know, HUMANS.

like mentioned earlier

the intelligent apes bred with the zoo animals
inevitably this changed the species

What zoo animals? Stop talking about the other films.

A_Nonny_Moose wrote:

What zoo animals? Stop talking about the other films.

dude its blatently part of the whole PoA
thats why its got so many weird quirks in the storyline
they most likely wanted to redo the whole storyline with indications of the future plotline throughout the film

honestly if you want to understand what was going on read the film synopses of the original films and it all comes together