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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:12 pm
Chuck Bass wrote:
A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
What are these trial things?
I don't know if they are easier in Super, but many of these combos were very frustrating and not practical for actual matches.
I don't like the gameplay of Street Fighter in general though. Combos are about pressing buttons too fast (that's why many players use turbo controllers), some moves have silly priority and invincibility frames and the games have serious balancing issues. Plus the VAST majority of players online use the same 3 or 4 characters -Ryu, Ken, Sagat and Akuma- who all play very simarly and it gets dull fast chasing them while they only throw fireballs (it felt like I was playing a platformer). Although now with the addition of 10 more characters this might change.
thats generally why playing with friends is better saying that if you play a decent character with anyone other then those 4 you realise the others are about 10x more dangerous
as far as combos go there are on screen indicators that help you out the other thing is a lot of cancels and tricks have been used throughout the games, so if you remember those you get a head start not sure what to comment on in terms of fast button presses, on previous street fighters i managed to compete all trials without too much problem the trick is if you keep trying a move and your missing it you're probably going too fast i usually found slowing down helped
I had a similar problem with tekken, in moves like chain throws i used to input button sequences twice during the animations because i found when i did them once i was too fast, doing them twice always guaranteed me the throw
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:41 pm
Superbuu3 wrote:
as far as combos go there are on screen indicators that help you out the other thing is a lot of cancels and tricks have been used throughout the games, so if you remember those you get a head start not sure what to comment on in terms of fast button presses, on previous street fighters i managed to compete all trials without too much problem the trick is if you keep trying a move and your missing it you're probably going too fast i usually found slowing down helped
Nah, I just suck. I couldn't complete most normal trials in SFIV. I can't input the charging motions consistently -this was also my biggest problem when I was trying to play with Lars in Tekken as one of his most important moves has such a motion- and some of the links were ridiculously strict (1 frame window... that's even harder than Mishima's EWGF).
What really turned me off though was that the best/safest way to win is to play very defensively, which is boring.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:56 pm
e honda players are dicks i actually played ppl who did that kinda stuff
but thats why i don't even bother with ranked
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:06 pm
God, I love using Dudley, he's just so many techniques and combinations.
Plus both of his ultra's are fucking awesome.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:27 pm
Oh yeah chou i never asked did you think i was good or crap i had barely played at that point i don't think i'd even unlocked any characters
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:28 pm
Just finished Hakan's and now I know the wonderful bastard's arsenal.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:35 pm
Street Fighter was always best played with friends, but SF4s online was pretty laggy (which makes a large chunk of the chain combos virtually impossible to do with any consistency) and I can't see myself buying SSF4 on the strength of the single player alone. Were I being critical, I still have a huge soft spot for the game, but I don't think the game does enough to punish scrubs, those online who repeatedly spam one move only. Any projectile moves should have a slightly longer delay to discourage this sort of thing, yet some characters, particularly Sagat and Akuma, seem almost taylor made for spamming. Also, neither the 360 or PS3 pads are that great for this style of game, meaning to really get the most out of it, you need a Fightstick or something similar.
Call me old fashioned, but Street Fighter is still at it's best with a mate sat next to you.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:40 pm
SimianWonder wrote:
Street Fighter was always best played with friends, but SF4s online was pretty laggy
Ah, God. What the fuck man, it's like everything's flipped here! When I play Tekken 6, it's bullshit c-lag hell for me online but perfect for all of you. Then when it comes to SFIV, it practically never lagged for me and lots of people seem to point out it actually being laggy.
MIIIIIIINDFUCK.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:50 pm
I played some matches with three bars (out of five) and the game was almost unplayable. In the end, I gave up on anything less than five. The matches I had with Chou were pretty good though, very little lag there.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:54 pm
Wow, that Honda match was stupid. And people rag on Tekken for putting too much emphasis on aggression.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:11 am
Playing Endless Match online in a room with some cool guys on /v/.
We're not all great but we're having a lot of fun.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:12 am
Endless match?
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:14 am
It's a room for multiple people to play.
The first two fight, winner goes on to fight the next person in line and so forth.
We have a thread on /v/ right now.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:17 am
Oh. I thought it was some extra mode or something. What's the player limit in rooms? You could only have 4 people in Tekken, which kind of sucked. You can watch the other matches in between yours, right?
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:23 am
we should get a RD lobby set up one day
i need to bring on the old school
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:24 am
A_Nonny_Moose wrote:
Oh. I thought it was some extra mode or something. What's the player limit in rooms? You could only have 4 people in Tekken, which kind of sucked. You can watch the other matches in between yours, right?
Yeah and it's about 8 people I believe.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:42 pm
Holy shit. Even the AI turtles in this game.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:56 pm
is it turtling or doing fuck all
cause depending on dfficulty they sometimes literally do nothing
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:00 pm
Guile and Honda actually turtle.
Tried out some of the character trials. Get stuck around number 10 for each one. Out of the characters I've briefly tried, I think I like Chun-li the most. Ibuki seems pretty easy to play as well.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:04 pm
i doubt i'd have played this till monday so i can't comment on the new guys
but yeah a good chun li player can be excellent so not a bad one to stick with
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:49 pm
I had one online match as well. It was a Ryu who did the same jump kick, low kick shoryuken combo for most of the match.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:53 pm
It was 3 bars and ran smoothly too.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:33 pm
Alright, well, don't expect to see me on PSN for another 24 hours. I just sent in a call to get my password reset and that's how long the customer service woman said it'd take.
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:37 pm
Where did you pre-order from buu?
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Subject: Re: No SSFIV topic from Baal? Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:40 pm
Lots of us online then?
If there's a chance of decent online play, maybe I'll see if I can pick this up after all...