One Piece Weekly Chapter Discussion

They're lilliputians, not dwarves. Jeez.

They're hobbitses.

Baal wrote:

Sanji nearly broke his leg fighting Vergo and if the One Piece formula has proven anything, the captain is always stronger than his underlings. Especially since Doflamingo has been built up as a big deal since his debut where he controlled a bunch of marines. It would be a copout at this point if he didn't completely throttle Sanji, especially since Sanji is the fodder character of himself, Zoro, and Luffy.

 
Vergo was an expert in armament haki, it could be argued it was simply the hardening factor of this ability that fractured Sanji's leg, rather than his raw power.  Dofla is obviously stronger than Vergo, but may not specialise in that same field of haki.
 
As for being a big deal, we saw Dofla destroy Smoker and effortlessly toy with Jozu during the war.  So yes, he's a big deal.  Thing is, we've seen very little of what Sanji can offer post TS.  If he can't at least put up some fight against the first big-name enemy he fights, then what was the timeskip for? I'm not expecting Sanji to win, but I don't think he'll be utterly crushed either.
 

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Also Doflamingo's not killing the Straw Hats either, I'm sure something's going to happen to save them at the last minute like the dwarves, Robin & Usopp or Mr. Toy Soldier.

 
Obviously no harm is going to come to Sunny or those on her, but it'd be easier to just have Sanji stall Dofla until Law can catch up and help out, if indeed that is what is required.

You're forgetting that Law, who is most likely a fair bit stronger than Sanji, said that he'd need all his strength to even attempt to fight Doflamingo. Sanji really shouldn't stand a chance unless the consistency of the writing takes a huge dive.

EDIT: Also Law himself is in no position to be saving anyone at the moment.

Neo wrote:

You're forgetting that Law, who is most likely a fair bit stronger than Sanji, said that he'd need all his strength to even attempt to fight Doflamingo. Sanji really shouldn't stand a chance unless the consistency of the writing takes a huge dive.

EDIT: Also Law himself is in no position to be saving anyone at the moment.

Law may have the edge of Sanji, but I don't think the gap is likely to be as large as you imply, so barring any lasting damage at Violet's hands, Sanji should be close to 100% and have at least some chance of holding Dofla at bay.

We'll soon see.

SimianWonder wrote:

Neo wrote:

You're forgetting that Law, who is most likely a fair bit stronger than Sanji, said that he'd need all his strength to even attempt to fight Doflamingo. Sanji really shouldn't stand a chance unless the consistency of the writing takes a huge dive.

EDIT: Also Law himself is in no position to be saving anyone at the moment.

Law may have the edge of Sanji, but I don't think the gap is likely to be as large as you imply, so barring any lasting damage at Violet's hands, Sanji should be close to 100% and have at least some chance of holding Dofla at bay.

We'll soon see.

All we know is that Sanji injured himself in a BH clash. Meanwhile Law cleanly cut through the same person and whatever was in that slash arc's way on the island. You can argue that cutting is a different type of damage than impact, but in a BH clash, Law completely and utterly destroyed Vergo.

I'm expecting Sanji to give DD a mid-difficulty fight at least though. This might end up being a pretty cool fight if it becomes a sky battle.

I remember when Crocodile mocked Doflamingo during the war.

I miss Croc.

I think Doflamingo is the first fucking interesting villain One Piece has had since like... Jesus, have we even had an interesting villain since Crocodile? I mean Eneru is cool, but he wasn't interesting. I can't think of any villains after Enel who were even cool.

Kizaru and Akainu are BOSS.

Yeah, Croc is still my favourite villain by quite some distance. His display in the war makes a mockery of his performance against an opponent of pre TS Luffy's calibre.

I love how he swaggered his way through the war.

"And now I'm going to help the guy who ruined my life's ambition, because fuck you"

Croc is boss.

Baal wrote:

I think Doflamingo is the first fucking interesting villain One Piece has had since like... Jesus, have we even had an interesting villain since Crocodile? I mean Eneru is cool, but he wasn't interesting. I can't think of any villains after Enel who were even cool.

Other than the Admirals like Kaio said, I liked Blackbeard and Magellan as well.

Also Kuma, but he's not really a villain.

Magellan was cool and Blackbeard had his thing going, but I never felt like "Interested" in them. Crocodile is a fucking boss, but he also has an obvious backstory to him what with knowing characters like Ivankov and having the same ambition as Luffy.

Anyway I was wondering if we'll see doflamingo control brooke, nami and chopper to attack Sanji or will doflamingo control sanji to fight them. I'm really just hoping this doesn't lead to the first of a series of flying battles.

There's no comparison at all between sanji and Law. Unless Oda has decided to just ignore everything and suddenly make Sanji the hero. Seriously though Sanji had the drop on Doflamingo and just used one of his most powerful attacks, and doflamingo shrugged it off. How can you really think that will end well? Hopefully someone gets killed off for being too boring becqause that would be a great twist at this point when everyone came back 'super' strong.

Sanji might use his okama powers to seduce Doflamingo.

The best theory I've seen so far is that Sanji will flip up his bangs and reveal his hidden eye is covered in make up. Okama powers activate.

Zero wrote:

All we know is that Sanji injured himself in a BH clash. Meanwhile Law cleanly cut through the same person and whatever was in that slash arc's way on the island. You can argue that cutting is a different type of damage than impact, but in a BH clash, Law completely and utterly destroyed Vergo.

Law and Vergo wasn't a pure BH clash though. Law was using his Devil Fruit rather than haki alone.

Buu wrote:

Seriously though Sanji had the drop on Doflamingo and just used one of his most powerful attacks, and doflamingo shrugged it off.

He may have surprised him, but it wasn't a sneak attack per se, because Doflamingo clearly saw (and heard) him coming. Also, do we know that a basic Diable Jambe is one of his most powerful attacks still? No. We've got no idea what Sanji's capable of post TS and to judge him on Pre TS Sanji's capabilities is selling him grossly short.

Do you genuinely thinkn he can win Sim? This is probably going to go down like Arlong.

Casa wrote:

The best theory I've seen so far is that Sanji will flip up his bangs and reveal his hidden eye is covered in make up. Okama powers activate.

This would be fantastic, more than enough to make me like him.

SimianWonder wrote:

Zero wrote:

All we know is that Sanji injured himself in a BH clash. Meanwhile Law cleanly cut through the same person and whatever was in that slash arc's way on the island. You can argue that cutting is a different type of damage than impact, but in a BH clash, Law completely and utterly destroyed Vergo.

Law and Vergo wasn't a pure BH clash though.  Law was using his Devil Fruit rather than haki alone.

Does his DF increase his cutting abilities though? Iirc all it does is enhance the AoE (Area of Effect), not its power.

Zero wrote:

Does his DF increase his cutting abilities though? Iirc all it does is enhance the AoE (Area of Effect), not its power.

 
His cutting ability is entirely his DF.
 
We've seen very little to gauge the level of his swordsmanship, and we know a strong enough haki can resist his power, as both Smoker and Doflamingo stated such.

Incidentally, I've just been re-reading the War Arc, and I'd forgotten just how good a showing Croc has. He tangles with Mihawk, Doflamingo, Jozu, even Akainu, and granted they may be only brief tussles rather than drawn-out fights, but only a surprise attack from Jozu actually hits cleanly or causes any visible damage.

It really wasn't what you'd expect of a guy who got beaten by a pre-Gears Luffy.

SimianWonder wrote:

It really wasn't what you'd expect of a guy who got beaten by a pre-Gears Luffy.  

I'll never understand how this happened. Even accounting for Luffy exploitation of Croc's weakness to water (and blood), it doesn't make much sense.

By all reasons, Crocodile still should've kicked his ass.