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PostSubject: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:22 am

So I was watching the Gohan's birthday episode for my sub/dub comparisons when this line came up in the SUBS:

Chi-Chi: When you were in that Room of Spirit and Time place, Gohan-chan turned 11 years old!

MY WHOLE BELIEF SYSTEM = SHATTERED
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:25 am

Good thing it's anime filler though.

In the manga he's still 9.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:25 am

Interesting. Who did those subs?
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:27 am

Steven Simmons. Pretty much the best translator you could possibly get.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:28 am

WIll it say he was 18 during the Buu saga then?
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:30 am

Haven't watched that yet.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:32 am

That's why I said "Will it" rather than "Does it". It was a question for the future.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:33 am

WELL EXCUSE ME
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:33 am

LOL, Gohan isn't 11, stupid subbers.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:35 am

Mewmaster wrote:
LOL, Gohan isn't 11, stupid subbers.

Didn't I just say that the best possible translator did this?

Blame Toei.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 12:35 am

Fine.

LOL, stupid Toei, Gohan isn't 11.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 1:43 am

TRUNKS YOU WERE ONLY A BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 1:47 am

Big Pixel-Faced Chibi Ryu wrote:
WIll it say he was 18 during the Buu saga then?
Not directly, I don't think. However, IIRC, it DOES explicitly say that seven years have passed since the battle with Cell.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 1:51 am

Damn it Toei, Gohan is 16!
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 3:35 pm

From Daizenshuu vol. 7:

757 A.D., One day in May - Gohan is born
767 A.D., May 26th - At noon, the Cell Game begins


According to the daizenshuu volumes, he's 10 chronologically at Cell Games, BUT almost 11 physically (he stayed for a bit more than 10.5 months in RoSaT).

Moreover:

774 A.D., April 7th - There's a sighting of the Golden Haired Warrior in Satan City

So, at this point of the Buu saga, he's indeed 16 year (and almost 11 months) old chronologically and 17 year old and almost 10 months physically.

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According to the manga:

Raditz's arrival - 4 year old
Nappa and Vegeta arrive about 10 and half months later - 4 year and 10.5 months old
A few weeks before leaving for Namek, a month until they reached Namek and a week on Namek - 5 year old
260 days later everyone is revived - 5 years and 260 days old
One year later, Freeza arrived - 6 year and 260 days old
Three years later - 9 year and 260 days old
10.5 months in Room of Spirit and Time - 10 year and about 220 days old (physically)

7 years later... - 17 year and 220 days old (physically)

Of course since we don't know exactly the dates, it's not 100% accurate.

The anime is correct though.


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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 3:39 pm

The daizenshu can fuck off.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 6:06 pm

The manga says he's SIXTEEN in the Buu saga.

Your Daizenshuu is wrong. (OMG SURPRISE)
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 6:42 pm

The manga flat out states;

Seven Years have passed since the battle with Cell.

Gohan is sixteen at the start of the Buu Saga.


Ergo, Gohan was nine when he beat Cell. No ifs, buts or maybes.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 6:53 pm

Damn there goes everything I believed in. I always thought he was at least 13 during the Cell fight. I hate ridiculously young Shonen main characters.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 6:58 pm

You are both as clueless as Zymemaru.
Of course, he's 16 (but really close to 17) chronologically, but in fact he's already 17 due to spending 1 year in RoSaT.

If only Mishimi hadn't deleted DBD...
Xehc had proved that Toriyama didn't count the 1 year as well.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 7:26 pm

I know what you mean Chou, and I'm not disagreeing with that entirely. Gohan is sixteen. How near he is to seventeen is irrelevant.

However, his body is aged further due to the time spent in the RoSaT. It doesn't count as actual aging, as it was still just one day, albeit in another dimension.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 7:33 pm

Trunks' hair growth indicates that the body aged in RoSaT like it had been a whole year and not a day.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 9:36 pm

Faldio wrote:
Trunks' hair growth indicates that the body aged in RoSaT like it had been a whole year and not a day.

That's what I meant. His body has aged, but he himself has not.
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 9:55 pm

You make little sense.
What's your problem again with Gohan's body being 10 and 17 year old respectively instead of 9 or 16? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: THIS CANNOT BE TRUE   THIS CANNOT BE TRUE Icon_minitimeWed Nov 26, 2008 9:59 pm

Hows about instead of going by bodies we go by the fact that toriyama says gohan is 16 and using simple math we know he had to be 9? What exactly does his body being aged have to do with anything anyway?
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