Persona 4 Arena

Just got this game. Its really fun and easy to get into. Like a slightly more flashier Blaz Blue. So if anyone liked BB you'll like this. Yes its like fighting in an anime which to me is apealing enough. Haven't gotten tired of it yet.

So move over mvc and mk9, Ace has a new fighting game to waste his time on.

Think ill partner this with extend too. Made me miss that game. Oh and hi everybody.

Despite the vaguely repetitive nature of the dungeons, I really enjoyed P4 so I'm keen to give this a look.

I've been playing this a lot over the past few days and it plays absolutely nothing like Blazblue, but everything like a good ArcSys game does. It's got great speed, the roster is decently balanced, everyone is pretty unique, and most of the cast is pretty fun to play.

I thought you hated P3 and P4 so why would you want to play a game based on those titles? is the fighting engine that good?

If I said I hated them in the past then that's the past. They're good RPGs with great battle systems and they've got average stories with much to be desired in some of their cast. Also, I'm a person that plays a shitload of fighting games, Simian, even if it's based off of a series I'm critical of, I'm gonna play it because it's one of the more notable fighting games.

Seriously, why does it matter if it's based off of another property? Who plays fighting games for their story and character basis?

Any game, fighting or otherwise, surely relies on you creating a connection with a character? (Part of the reason I never really got into Street Fighter 4 was that the new cast weren't all that and without that connection, I lose interest.) A fighting game based off an RPG series you were (perhaps at one time, overly) criticial of would suggest you would not enjoy the game to its fullest potential.

Hell, it'd be like me playing a Naruto fighting game. i have no time invested in any of the characters, so what possible interest would I have in a fighting with them them? None at all. On a similar note, I also recall you were a huge fan of Digital Devil Saga, whilst both parts left me cold. They were competent but ultimately I found them unengaging. Were this a DDR fighting game, I'd have no interest.

Again, if you've retracted (or at least somewhat mellowed) on your previous criticisms of the Persona games, then that makes much more sense. Still, to each their own and I'm never going to try and tell you what games you can and cannot play, or should and should not enjoy, I just found it curious.

PS- can you play as Teddie? Fun as a bear, less so as an awkward teenage boy.

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Any game, fighting or otherwise, surely relies on you creating a connection with a character?

Not really, I've learned that games only have one thing distinguishing themselves as a medium from movies and television and that's the interactivity. As long as the gameplay is solid then I would be fine with playing any game, but that is not to say it'd be better with gray blocks just smacking each other. Games need good gameplay to be enjoyable, but story and characters do add to the experience, however this is not the case with fighting games. Fighting games live their history in characters being giant pastiches of real characters (Just look at Street Fighter's history, more than half of the cast are basically stereotypes of their respective countries or certain notable figures in sports) and because of that I pay no mind to character depth or story quality, but to just how much fun the character is to play or how much I like that specific pastiche. This is why whenever someone acts like Blazblue has the best story ever for fighting games by virtue of it being ridiculously long and detailed, I get annoyed because Blazblue's story is basically anime and sci-fi tropes rolled into one big story filled with terrible characters who only resemble archetypes and have no real depth to them, they are not parodies of anything the game tries to make you give a damn about these blobs of stereotypes.

Most fighting games do not do this, why? Because most fighting game developers know that the people who are going to stick with the game in the long run are not going to care about their story and as such, they so no point in making an extended one, but rather letting supplemental material do that, while they spend their time working on their game engines. Persona 4 Arena I will cut some slack though, because they're using already established characters for the story and Atlus wrote the story themselves so it's not like ArcSys wasted more of their time making another story, all of their time was spent on game development and balancing.

Also yes, every character from the main team of Persona 4 is playable in P4A and it's got a few Persona 3 characters and a new character altogether.

I saw Max play this a little and it looks interesting how you get almost like a summon assist (I assume that's the persona? I know little to nothing about the games).

Yeah, those are persona. In the fighter they just use the one they start with in the game.

Enjoyed this game for a few days. I was supposed to be playing it with a friend, but he got frustrated because I learned the game faster than he did so I kept beating him. Guess I didn't enjoy the game enough to play it offline or with randoms.

It looked like it might might feel quite Blazblue-esk to play, but it doesn't.

how much offline stuff is there in this? might get this since it's cheap now

What do you mean? It has an online mode where you fight dudes and lobbies for them that's about it.

how many modes are there offline? don't particularly care for online

Arcade, Story, Score Attack, Versus and I think survival?

is teddie cool in this?

he's alright i guess

is this more like street fighter or marvel vs capcom. the biggest worry for me now is combos need ridiculous timing or if i can play without needing a ton of precision

It's like neither. It's an anime fighter that means it has more conventions towards games like Guilty Gear and Blazblue and yes there are combos that require timing and precision but that's only at higher levels. P4A comes in with dial-a-combos which are basically you mash a button and get a combo out, but you can also do them manually if you want to as well.

You're probably not even going to try going anywhere near a competitive level so the most you need is a cursory knowledge of combos and even that you won't need for the story mode because there's so little fucking gameplay.

Stop downplaying yourself BD. I still haven't forgotten the first time we played SCV together; I was expecting him to be absolutely horrible and he destroyed me.

That's because you're bad at Soulcalibur

think i'll just pass on this

Baal wrote:

That's because you're bad at Soulcalibur

It was day1 I hate you.

Justice2Believe wrote:

think i'll just pass on this

Well, I've heard it's a good game and beginner-friendly for the RPG fans of Persona. It has a long story mode too. Oh and it has a good netcode I believe.
You could wait for P4A2. They're adding Yukari, Junpei, Sho (new villain) and possibly Adachi.

Persona 4 Arena is a very newbie friendly fighting game, but much like every other fighting game ever those mechanics put in place can only take you so far against people who actually know what they're doing.

mitsuru > yukari

i'll get this if i'm desperate. i need to spend like 12 dollars more to get that rebate

for fucks sake there's a shit load of dialogue

Yes, the story mode is effectively a visual novel, there is less gameplay than words.