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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:16 am

Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:16 am

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Fuckerstein. WHY DO I SEE THIS HERE? Is this a way for Dirjel to get me back?! I thought this was P3 related.... pale

How am I getting back at you? I didn't know they were talking about P4 either!

It still feels revenge-plottish to me, even if it isn't. Sad(
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:17 am

DevilKingBaal wrote:
Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:17 am

Trigger Walnut wrote:
Dirjel wrote:
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Fuckerstein. WHY DO I SEE THIS HERE? Is this a way for Dirjel to get me back?! I thought this was P3 related.... pale

How am I getting back at you? I didn't know they were talking about P4 either!

It still feels revenge-plottish to me, even if it isn't. Sad(

I had nothing to do with this! Baal is plotting against the both of us!
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:19 am

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DevilKingBaal wrote:
Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?

I liked Minato and hoped he never would've died. He left too many people behind. So that is why I hope for him! I may not relate to him! But god damn it I will hope!

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:19 am

DevilKingBaal wrote:
Philia wrote:
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Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?

I liked Minato and hoped he never would've died. He left too many people behind. So that is why I hope for him! I may not relate to him! But god damn it I will hope!

You see, if he comes back to life that essentially ruins his character.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:21 am

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Philia wrote:
DevilKingBaal wrote:
Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?

I liked Minato and hoped he never would've died. He left too many people behind. So that is why I hope for him! I may not relate to him! But god damn it I will hope!

You see, if he comes back to life that essentially ruins his character.

Oaky. What character? He never spoke, never did much of anything except fight. So what character was there?

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:22 am

DevilKingBaal wrote:
Philia wrote:
DevilKingBaal wrote:
Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?

I liked Minato and hoped he never would've died. He left too many people behind. So that is why I hope for him! I may not relate to him! But god damn it I will hope!

Yeah, Poor Yuko was talkin' about babies to him. XD
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:25 am

DevilKingBaal wrote:
Philia wrote:
DevilKingBaal wrote:
Philia wrote:
DevilKingBaal wrote:
Listen to me! No matter how small of a chance anything is possible! That is how a man thinks! No matter what you say! I am still going to hope Minato will come back!

From a slighty boring and silent protagonist that doesn't really relate to the player at all, not even remotely?

I liked Minato and hoped he never would've died. He left too many people behind. So that is why I hope for him! I may not relate to him! But god damn it I will hope!

You see, if he comes back to life that essentially ruins his character.

Oaky. What character? He never spoke, never did much of anything except fight. So what character was there?

Well;

Fool: limitless potential, that takes care of the "multiple personae" bit.
Death: spritual rebirth, as his soul leaves this earth, another rises to take on another task.
World: achieved potential, when he dies, he's achieved his goal.

To bring him back would fuck up everything Persona 3 was about.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:29 am

What was Persona 3 about? Friendship? Sacrifices? Loss? Success at the loss of the most important person?

Kinda like how Chidori died for Junpei but was able to come back but lost all of her memories?!

Fact being screw the story! Screw the meaning! I'm tired of there always being such a tragic ending in SMT games!

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:30 am

Then it wouldn't be an SMT game.

Also, the new scenes in FES shouldn't be taken as canon.

For instance, Chidori coming back to life is non-canon. Dating Elizabeth is non-canon.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:33 am

It would make something about an SMT game new! Where the main character doesn't have to sacrifice his own life and leave behind his loved ones. That happens in every SMT Game!

And how can't they be taken as canon? I can understand Chidori. But the dating with Elizabeth?

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:38 am

Persona 3's theme was Death and minor Socializing. <_<
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:39 am

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Persona 3's theme was Death and minor Socializing. <_<

Pretty much.

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:39 am

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That happens in every SMT Game!

Not quite.

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And how can't they be taken as canon? I can understand Chidori. But the dating with Elizabeth?

All new content in FES is non-canon. Dating Elizabeth was just a fun gimmick. Although, I'm guessing they want it canon now because of what Peggy said about her sister.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:42 am

When was it stated that everything new in FES was non-canon? Because if so then the Answer isn't canon either. Thank god.

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:51 am

New content added to Journey. Sadly, Answer is canon.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:53 am

Then how is some of the new stuff added already non-canon if the Answer is?

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:53 am

I also find it to be the ultimate bullshit that Minato died while Aigis lived.

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:55 am

They should've thrown in Dante. He always makes things better. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:56 am

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They should've thrown in Dante. He always makes things better. Razz

How would that've helped?

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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:58 am

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They should've thrown in Dante. He always makes things better. Razz

How would that've helped?

It's a joke referring to Nocturne Maniax. Dante was added in that expansion.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:59 am

DevilKingBaal wrote:
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They should've thrown in Dante. He always makes things better. Razz

How would that've helped?

It wouldn't have. It just would've been cool.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:02 am

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It would make something about an SMT game new! Where the main character doesn't have to sacrifice his own life and leave behind his loved ones. That happens in every SMT Game!

And how can't they be taken as canon? I can understand Chidori. But the dating with Elizabeth?

The Elizabeth dates are canon, because of what Margaret said about what happened to Elizabeth as a result of their dates together.
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PostSubject: Re: GO ELIZABETH!!!!!   Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:04 am

AH-HA!

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