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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:07 am

Hey, if Sentinel was still as fucking rigged coming into MvC3 as he was back in MvC2, what makes you think Cyclops is going to fare better?

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:20 am

The mechanics are a lot different in this game nonetheless. In MvC2 you couldn't easily string into mass combos with very many people like you can in 3. His main L->M->H->S type of thing will keep him away from just standing back, Optic Blast, Optic Blast, BEHOLD OPTIC BLAST. You know what I mean?

Of course I wouldn't doubt people trying that. It's going to be no better than Magneto's EM Disrupter though.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:24 am

They did not do that shit intentionally, it was purely because of the lack of effort that went into MvC2 that it was so fucking broken with stuff like that. Now that MvC2 has had a tournament scene for over a decade and J Wong always won tournaments with Cyclops, they're going to do more meta bullshit like they did with Sentinel being the best character before patches.

Now Phoenix is the best character despite having like no fucking health.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:28 am

Ok you have a point there. Well hopefully they learned with Sentinel and are willing to change Cyclops up a bit.

EDIT: Some people are saying that Wesker and Magneto are better than Phoenix actually. And also Spider-Man is the perfect counter for her.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:42 am

I understand Wesker but Magneto? I don't remember dealing with too many of him nor much bullshit from good players with him.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:46 am

Wait how is spidey a perfect counter?
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:49 am

Web Swing is a good way to get around the area and away from Phoenix's shit.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:52 am

well spidey isn't the only one who can do that shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:25 am

He can also Web Zip/.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:29 am

Have you seen IFC Yipes's Magneto Baal?

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:10 pm

I haven't, but I know that Yipes is extremely skilled at MvC so I'll take your word on Magneto.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:17 pm



Watch that shit.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:29 pm

God damn.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:24 pm

Damn X-Factor is such bullshit
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:26 pm

It's both great and shit. You can use it for cancelling your combos and genuine strategy but if you're like most people, you'll throw it out at the most inopportune moment or whenever you have Dark Phoenix or Sentinel or Wesker as your last point character.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:20 pm

Nobody is better than Phoenix. DP with X-factor is blatantly broken and you only need to land 2-3 combos to unleash her (which is much more simple than it sounds thanks to some characters' great mix-up game after a combo ends) or just let your other characters die since you also build meter that way.
Phoenix, as a whole, is the best character in the game anyway because you have to drop your combo AND waste meter to snap her in AND pick characters with great assists to maximize your chances of hitting her when she comes in (which results in using an overall weaker team) AND you still have only one chance to land that hit. Even if she dies, your first character (who would have normally died, if you hadn't included Phoenix your team) is now alive and your opponent has wasted his meter while you have built some. For all those reasons, she's the best by far.

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That said, I reaaaally like her as a character. Please, Capcom don't nerf her much.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:06 pm

Ellis wrote:
Wait how is spidey a perfect counter?

His half circle back + Double Attack hyper combo (The one where he goes into the air and does his web swing). If you activate Dark Phoenix and do the hyper right away, it is unblockable for Dark Phoenix and will OHKO (It does in X Factor, I'm not sure without).
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:12 pm

They should put in Omega Red and one of his rope grabs should take away hyper meter. That would be awesome against Phoenix Laughing.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:58 pm

This:
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They should put in Omega Red and one of his rope grabs should take away hyper meter. That would be awesome against Phoenix Laughing.

+ this
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What IS depraved is all that demon tentacle cartoon porn. That shit is creepy as fuck.

and you know what will happen

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:23 pm

Shuma-Gorath is enough tentacle porn, keep Omega Red's ass out of this game.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:20 pm

For some reason, Omega Red reminds me of Metallica.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:28 pm

If Cyclops ends up being incredibly broken, I can see people putting this into his trailer.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:32 pm

Omega Red sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:58 am

Oh no he breathed, everyones dead.

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PostSubject: Re: Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3   Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:38 am

http://twitter.com/#!/lupinko/status/90850056730718209

I wasn't sure what an old episode of Mighty Max could be hinting, but someone on SA reminded me that one of the main characters in that show is named Virgil, so perhaps this is a hint toward DMC Vergil?

Then again, a tweet right after that says "it's probably not what you think it is" so maybe there's something deeper in there.

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